GL1500 Transmission Test


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GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby The Grand Pooh-Bah » Mon May 14, 2012 11:09 pm



I'm not sure where I read it, and I can't find the info in the search. I read somewhere that you can check if the 4th gear is currently or will be a problem soon on the GL1500. The procedure had something to do with pointing the bike uphill and listening to the sound of the transmission then pointing the bike downhill and listening again to see if it sounds different. I'd like to know the exact procedure of this pre-purchase test. I'm looking at a couple 88's 300+ miles away that a friend is going to check for me.

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby WingAdmin » Tue May 15, 2012 10:55 am

Right, you're talking about the 4-5 shifter problem. If the bike is experiencing the problem, you will hear noise (anything from a clicking to a grinding) when in neutral, running, and pointing downhill, but not when pointing uphill.

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby cardinal » Tue May 15, 2012 3:12 pm

Actually, I could hear mine clicking in first, second and third gear, with the clutch pulled in. I'm pretty sure I could hear it when I slowed down at parking lot speeds in first. But it's much more noticable when you're sitting still.

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby rickmcdaniel » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:02 pm

Hi. Just read this post. So what is the fix for this if my bike has this problem?

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby cardinal » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:46 pm

Total engine tear down to get to the transmission and replace the shifting fork. I lucked out and found a low mileage engine and my son installed it.
If I had my loacal dealer remove, tear down, repair and replace my engine it would have cost me over $4,000 :o

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby rickmcdaniel » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:54 pm

Yeah that what I was able to find out. Found another engine as well so that is the way I am heading too. Thanks for the clarification, bad news though it was.

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby cardinal » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:45 am

I just noticed that you have a '99,I thought they changed the tranny in 96 or 97 and resolved the problem. Looks like that's not true. Do you, by any chance, have a heel toe shifter on your trike?
And how many miles? It looked to me like the problem showed up between 70 and 80 thousand miles and mostly on '94 and 95 models.

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby rickmcdaniel » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:29 pm

No. I don't have a heal toe shifter. Found out that the bike had been rear ended before I bought it. Just my luck. At least i found an engine for $600 with less miles on it. So going to have it swapped out.

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby FUGLY » Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:32 am

what difference does the heal/toe shifter make i have one on my 1990 se

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby cardinal » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:25 am

I don't know that it makes any difference at all. When I got my bike, it had the heel toe shifter on it and it was a natural place to rest my foot. I wondered if the previous owners had used it as a foot rest as much as I did and if the light pressure on the toe could have been wearing that shifting fork.
Once again, I have no idea whether the heel toe shifter has anything to do with the problem or not. It occurs in so few bikes and because mine had the heel toe, I wondered how many of the others that had the fourth gear shifter problem, also had the heel toe shifter.

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby FUGLY » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:36 am

ok does this happen all the time ...i was at a set of lights today and bliped the gas and there was a grinding noise ..i was on the flat in neutral .. i cannot get it to happen again really strange .. the noise only happened for less than a second

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby cardinal » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:32 pm

FUGLY wrote:ok does this happen all the time ...i was at a set of lights today and bliped the gas and there was a grinding noise ..i was on the flat in neutral .. i cannot get it to happen again really strange .. the noise only happened for less than a second

Don't know what that means, mine started out as an occasional ticking sound.

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby cardinal » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:31 am

If this works, you can hear the snapping sound above the engine. Ignore how dirty the bike is, it was stuck in a shed for 5 months while I was looking for an engine.




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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby Scanjo » Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:51 pm

cardinal wrote:I wondered if the previous owners had used it as a foot rest as much as I did and if the light pressure on the toe could have been wearing that shifting fork.


I'm not familiar with the 4-5 shifter problem but what you are speaking of here should not be a problem. The shifting forks work off of the shifting drum. The shift lever operates the shift drum. A spring holds the shift drum in position for each gear. As long as you don't put enough pressure on the shift lever to overpower that spring then it's not an issue as the shift forks don't move. Hitting a bump in the road with your foot resting on the shifter COULD create a situation where you would be overpowering the spring. With the clutch in this is normal operation. With the clutch out is not recommended... I would suspect you'd hear grinding gears at that point or if the pressure was sharp enough you could force the transmission into another gear. THAT could abnormally wear or bend the shifting forks, or damage gears.

IMHO I would suggest you try to break yourself of that habit just to be on the safe side, but it's your repair dollars. ;)

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby cardinal » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:17 am

I broke the habit the quick way........I took the floor boards and heel toe shifter off and put the pegs and toe shift on. There wasn't really room for my 13 extra wide foot and all that clutter down there anyway :lol:

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby rickmcdaniel » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:07 pm

Turns out my problem was a bad U-joint letting the drive shaft slip out of the tranny allowing the gear forks to slip. New U-joint and the problem is fixed. Anyone need a good GL1500 engine? I now have an extra one.

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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby rick.sheeley » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:18 pm

Hey Rick, do you still have that goldwing engine?


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Re: GL1500 Transmission Test

Postby tumunga » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:28 am

cardinal wrote:I don't know that it makes any difference at all. When I got my bike, it had the heel toe shifter on it and it was a natural place to rest my foot. I wondered if the previous owners had used it as a foot rest as much as I did and if the light pressure on the toe could have been wearing that shifting fork.
Once again, I have no idea whether the heel toe shifter has anything to do with the problem or not. It occurs in so few bikes and because mine had the heel toe, I wondered how many of the others that had the fourth gear shifter problem, also had the heel toe shifter.


I have always told my wife to QUIT RESTING HER FOOT ON THE PHUQING CLUTCH PEDAL!!! while she was driving my 2008 F150. Why would motorcycle riders "rest" their "toes" on a heel toe shifter???

Put your friggin' foot on the board, boys!!!1! That will fix your perceived problem. Floor boards are meant to be used. Use them.


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