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cruise control question (new owner)

Postby lundo » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:08 pm



Hi folks, this is my first post. I just recently bought a 1994 GL 1500 SE. I have never owned a wing so am still trying to figure out how every thing works. Everything seems to work except the cruise. Have been reading on here and was afraid my fix might be to difficult for me because it appears the cruise system on these machines is pretty complicated. Anyway, the other day i noticed my clutch lever makes a clicking sounding when it is pulled in; but I also noticed that if u push it forward slightly is clicks so that got me to thinking. Took it down the road pushed forward on the clutch lever,set the cruise and like magic the cruise now works. So after all that rambling on said (sorry) I know my problem I am just not sure how to fix it. Is there an adjustment on this switch? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks



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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby tfdeputydawg » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:23 pm

Use WD40 on the switch and those on the brake lever and on the brake pedal also.
Wipe the switches as good as you can.
Then coat w/Liquid Wrench Silicone spray or similar.
A "little dab will do ya", just as the old Brill Cream ad said!

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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby lundo » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:49 pm

OK great, I will give that a try. I had actually thought about doing something similar to that but was leery of spraying on the switches until I run it across you guys first.Thanks PS: and yes sad to say but I am old enough to remember the old Brill cream commercials :)

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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:54 pm

If you remove those two switches, you'll find that the contacts are actually open to the air, and visible through a small hole. You can try spraying some contact cleaner in there to fix the problem. I had one of my switches fail altogether, so I just replaced both (they're pretty cheap, got OEM replacements from Cyclemax).

However...I don't think that's your problem. Your problem is that the clutch lever isn't going forward far enough to release the switch. The switch shouldn't really be responsible for pushing the clutch lever forward. You might try removing the lever and cleaning and lubricating the pivot. Or, perhaps the clutch line has a bit of air and needs to be bled.

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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby lundo » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:42 pm

Thanks for the reply. Yes the clutch lever has a slight amount of play, 1/8" or so. I will try the easy way first (spraying) and if that don't fix the rascal I guess I will have to dig deeper. Thanks again guys for your help.

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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby heidebill » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:08 am

I had the same problem with mine, 97 1500. There is a small brass bushing in the clutch lever, it pushes the master cylinder for the clutch. Mine was worn slightly, this allowed the clutch lever to be sloppy, and the switches don't work properly. A new one for a couple bucks, 5 minutes later, and the cruise works fine. Bill

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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby Sempai » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:56 pm

I have seen this problem on several different Goldwings throughout the different generations. I've attached a picture to help explain what is happening.
What is happening: The pushrod that actuates the master cylinder, by design, just floats in the space between the cylinder's plunger and a bushing which resides within the actual clutch lever. This pushrod is known for pushing its way through the bushing. Early symptoms include the extra play in the lever before engaging the cylinder's plunger, and the annoying, arbitrary canceling of the cruise control (or complete failure to engage the C.C.) If left to take its own course, the pushrod will eventually push its way completely through the bushing and continue on through the lever itself. Later symptoms include the clutch lever feeling 'loose,' the clutch lever failing to disengage the clutch completely, and worse, the friction point degrading towards the end of the clutch lever travel...that is to say, you pull the lever and you don't feel the clutch working until the lever is pulled almost all the way, releasing the lever has the clutch fully engaged very quickly upon release of the lever. Essentially speaking, when you pull the clutch lever, the first 80% of lever travel just gets the pushrod to engage the plunger, clutch activity is only in the last 20% or so of the lever's travel. Inversely, when you release the lever, the clutch is fully engaged in the first 20% of lever travel. Finally, lol, just before the pushrod finally breaks through the far side of the LEVER (as you can see in the attache photograph,) the pushrod is just too far from fully engaging the clutch, symptoms being the increased difficulty in finding neutral with the engine running, the bike lurching while stopped, in gear, clutch fully pulled...at this time, you might think about getting a new clutch lever, bushing, and pushrod, about $35 from the dealership, you can reuse the O-ring from the old pushrod.
Keep the rubber side down.

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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby lundo » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:30 pm

Thank you everyone for your replies. I haven't had time to work on the ole bike but I am sure with your guys suggestions I should make quick work of it. Thanks again. This site is great !

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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby Birdman-68 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:18 am

Sempai, you are right on the money. My, new to me gl1500A had the problem you described down to the last detail. I went to the dealer and bought a kit (it included the bushing, a new pushrod, and the rubber boot) for $20.00. Took all of 10 minutes to pull the old pieces and install the new. Now my clutch lever feels like it's new again, and my cruise works flawlessly. Thanks for your input.http:
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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:36 pm

I don't have a lot of play on mine, but I was ordering a bunch of brake parts anyway, so I threw a new clutch lever bushing into my order anyway. This is a good one to know!

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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby Kiwi2 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:51 am

Thanks guys for the info ........ now I know why my cruise control won't work.

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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:43 pm

I got around to changing my clutch lever bushing tonight, and was surprise at just how much wear there was in it. It was definitely time. Of course, I documented it and wrote it up:

How to replace your clutch lever bushing

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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby zamboni920 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:22 am

Did my own clutch lever bushing on my 1200. See pics.
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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby amsoilguy » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:22 am

I'm having cruise control issues as well on my '88, the 'cruise on' light comes on when switched but the 'cruise set' light does not and the cruise does not engage. I tried pushing both the clutch and brake levers out while trying to set it but to no avail. Should I go ahead and replace the clutch lever bushing anyway or do you think it's in the switch itself?
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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:25 am

amsoilguy wrote:I'm having cruise control issues as well on my '88, the 'cruise on' light comes on when switched but the 'cruise set' light does not and the cruise does not engage. I tried pushing both the clutch and brake levers out while trying to set it but to no avail. Should I go ahead and replace the clutch lever bushing anyway or do you think it's in the switch itself?


You can replace the bushing, but if pushing the lever out doesn't fix it, that's not the problem.

There's a fair-sized laundry list of items that can cause what you're seeing, and the best thing to do is to get the Honda service manual, as it has a troubleshooting flowchart that will guide you through the process.

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Re: cruise control question (new owner)

Postby anwarg » Mon May 05, 2014 1:25 am

Man. It's cold and raining outside and I can't wait to try out this one! Amazing!




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