1998 goldwing GL1500A push start button and no crank


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wild hogs
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1998 goldwing GL1500A push start button and no crank

Postby wild hogs » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:16 am



I am troubleshooting why after the bike just shut down on the freeway in cruise at 65, shut down and coasted to a stop, 5 days ago and I can't find the problem.
New battery and 13.5 volts same results no crank, relays click, the solenoids A & B do not click and no power to the y/r wire on Solenoid A.
wire to the ECU has 12 volts, wire to the cruise control from the ECU to cruise has 2 volts.
Checked every switch and fuse and relay twice plus all the way from the kill switch to the side stand.
I just can't swallow that it is the ECU?
Has anyone run into this, oh by the way the BAS has checked good, I have started doing continuity checks on the wiring the wire from the ECU to the cruise with the cruise switch pushed has good continuity. the cruise ligth will not come on with the key on, all other lights come on and test and the ones that are suppose to go out go out, the others except the cruise stays lit.
push starter button and headlights dim and the 2,3,6 relays all click???????
Help



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Re: 1998 goldwing GL1500A push start button and no crank

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:31 am

My initial thought about a no crank is the switch attached to the reverse lever.Operate the lever a few times and re-try to crank.
Post again if it doesn't help

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Re: 1998 goldwing GL1500A push start button and no crank

Postby wild hogs » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:59 pm

I tried the suggestion and to no avail did anything happen, really getting disappointed.
I tried another test from the manual and it was the fuel pump test, at the end of the test it said ECU faulty. I ran cruise and reverse test earlier and at the end of the test, it also stated faulty ECU.
I am giving up no ECU for at least a month and $500 dollars later.

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Re: 1998 goldwing GL1500A push start button and no crank

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:30 pm

It is possible,but let me dig into the schematic for key test points.There are several things that must happen to crank the engine,and many of them don't have anything to do with the ECM.

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Re: 1998 goldwing GL1500A push start button and no crank

Postby wild hogs » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:01 pm

start switch when pushed headlight goes out now, relay clicks and no crank or draw on the battery.
The cruise light will not come on and the fuel pump has power but no prime, don't think the pump is running. power and circuit to ground goes through the ECM. Cruise power from the ECM is only 2 volts and ECM has 12 volts going to it.
Kill switch good, start switch good and jump y/r and b/lb and the relay solenoid A makes contact and the start system works and starter turns. I went on the switch side of the wire harness and the 9p red connector does not have the wires running from the switch as shown in the manual I have. I was trying to do continuity on both sides of the connector and the switch wires are the same in the manual, but when you check the harness side they change colors at the connector and I am not able to find out where the wires go, I know one goes to the dimmer and one of them goes to the ECM.
Hope you can find something. Several have sent schematics and the wires all line up the same. My manual is for 1990 to 2000 A/SE goldwings with and without reverse. The manual is from Honda so I thought it would be right. Checked diode pack good, reverse good, relays good, fuses good.
Does anyone know where I can get the ECM checked or tested to make sure it is bad?
Thanks

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Re: 1998 goldwing GL1500A push start button and no crank

Postby Bamaeagle » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:19 am

Don't know where you can get one tested.

I had the same issues with my 97 1500.....I ended up getting a used ECM from Ebay....installed it an it fixed the problem. Still have the old unit.
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Re: 1998 goldwing GL1500A push start button and no crank

Postby 406sb » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:21 am

I had a problem with mine not starting 96 1500, the solenoid next to battery would click when hitn the starter button, the one next to the footbrake pedal wouldnt, tech told me to cross screwdriver over the terminals on the solenoid and try to start, if it started then that solenoid was bad. i did that and it started, i replaced the solenoid at the brake pedal and its starting fine now, hope this helps

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Re: 1998 goldwing GL1500A push start button and no crank

Postby Lystynyr » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:20 am

Can you say "Weird" ??? 1998 Goldwing SE GL1500 ( 72,000 miles ) - July 08, 2012 - 70 MPH on I65 at Culman, AL. Shut down - No power - Trailered home and went through all the tests that you have ( And a few more ) - Every thing you have listed, I also have. Someone please tell me it is something besides the ECU !

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Re: 1998 goldwing GL1500A push start button and no crank

Postby wild hogs » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:09 pm

I am in the process of taking the bike over to the mechanic shop for carburator rebuild and he said he would look at a few items and would be able to tell.
I have a new ECU coming, be here in 4 days. I will let you know what happens.

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Re: 1998 goldwing GL1500A push start button and no crank

Postby wild hogs » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:36 pm

OK bike is running and I can't beleive it. After checking the stop switch 9 times, cleaning and running continuity checks. All checked out OK, but after changing the stop switch it fired right up and is running but not well, I changed the ECU and purring like a kitten. I will not say if I had to change the
ECU or not but did anyway. I will ride for a while and see if the Carb's need to be rebuilt. So far so good, so we shall see. I still can not beleive after another mechanic verified the stop switch operation was OK, than after changing it out, started right up. Good riding and thank you all for all the help.
If this fixed mine, it might just be the problem with yours. The wire runs from relay 6 through the cruise control to the ECU and than the start switch along with a lot of other systems.
Hope this helps.

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Re: 1998 goldwing GL1500A push start button and no crank

Postby 406sb » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:29 pm

wild hogs wrote:OK bike is running and I can't beleive it. After checking the stop switch 9 times, cleaning and running continuity checks. All checked out OK, but after changing the stop switch it fired right up and is running but not well, I changed the ECU and purring like a kitten. I will not say if I had to change the
ECU or not but did anyway. I will ride for a while and see if the Carb's need to be rebuilt. So far so good, so we shall see. I still can not beleive after another mechanic verified the stop switch operation was OK, than after changing it out, started right up. Good riding and thank you all for all the help.
If this fixed mine, it might just be the problem with yours. The wire runs from relay 6 through the cruise control to the ECU and than the start switch along with a lot of other systems.
Hope this helps.

:D glad you have it fixed, yea i have learned alot about my gw lately. Cant beat a wing,




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