How are these 1500's?


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How are these 1500's?

Postby littlebeaver » Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:52 pm



I owned a Kawasaki Nomad 1500, really nice bike but I was scared to death to take it into a shop because of the bill I would get.. :shock: :shock: How easy are these Honda 1500's to work on? What are the most common issues with these bikes? What type of gas milage does one get, My Nomad sucked.. I'd go 100 mphs and have to fuel up... are these any better? I actually owned one for a week but never really got to ride it but to the house, it felt awesome... There was a problem with the title..Resold it back..Dumbass dealer manager.. It was a white one [97] just like WingAdmin. but his is newer, and it sat in my garage until they came and got it..after that we got the Nomad...I'm just being curious, or snoopy..Might get another one..Maybe..



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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby RBGERSON » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:03 am

Gas mileage like an 1100 35 to 45 depending on how you drive..40 average. No know big problems from 96 to 2000. earlier had a 4th gear issue wearing out early, some recalls on angle bank sensors and other minor things. Great bike a lot more power than the 1100's. Biggest issue to to fix anything it's hours of taking plastic off to get to the bike.
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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby cbx4evr » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:29 am

I love my 1500 and apparently it is way easier to work on it compared to the 1800. Removing plastic does take time and care but one you've done it a few times it goes quickly. My biggest complaint would be around rear wheel removal.
"It´s a friggen motorcycle, it´s not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you s**t your pants every now and then. "

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby TennX » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:00 am

Well I wanted a wing without the debt so I opted for a 1500 (cash purchase) and couldnt be happier with the performance of this bike , as big as it is man O man will it move and handles better than my VTX 1300...once I get it tweaked and make it mine I can see the VTX going up for sale...good luck on your choice...
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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby hugger-4641 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:20 am

I've owned various bikes since I was 12. These are the most dependable bikes you will ever own. I did a lot of research before I bought my 94 Aspencade. 94 was the first year that a crank sensor was used for the cruise control and reverse was standard on the Aspencade. Prior to 94, the cruise was slightly little better than a simple throttle lock. I have ridden several 1800's including my preacher's 2005 anniversery edition. The fuel mileage is a little better on the newer fuel injected bikes, mine is carbureted and I get 35 to 38mpg and my highway speeds generally stay between 65 and 75mph. If I stay under 65mph, I get about 40mpg. Between zero and 100k miles, there is very little that these bikes require aside from the usual brakes, batteries, tires, etc. Around 100k miles, the timing belt needs to be changed, if you pay a shop to do it, this will be one of the most expensive items to have done. I don't know what the limits are, but there are many, many of these bikes I have personally seen on the road with over 150k miles and a couple I know of have over 250k.

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:58 am

..Thank you guy's, thank you much...I have learned alot just in a few hours...sounds like removing the rear wheel is a pain, I removed my Nomad's swingarm to lube the bearings so I'm not afraid of taking on harder jobs...How's the braking system, Great, Good, or just fair? I was thinking of getting one in poor condition like my 1100 was when I got it and then giving the cycle a make over like I did my 11.. What about the parts guy's? are they pretty much the same throught the years, from what year to what year are they the same...Can I put a starter from like a 90 model on like a 97 model or something like that? You know what I mean..Are the headers the same thru the years? What year was it again when FI came into play? Any issue with the fuel injection failing? Is it a typical problem?

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby hugger-4641 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:55 pm

Most engine and suspension parts will interchange between 1988 and 2000. But of course, there are exceptions like radios, switches, headlights, body parts etc. This is a good place to ask which parts will or will not interchange. You can also look up the manuals and Microfiche here for a given model and compare to others to be sure. The brake system is excellent if using O.E.M. or equivalent pads, however it is an integrated system that may be different than what you are used to. Let me explain further what "integrated" means. The right brake handle controls one caliper on the front wheel only. The foot brake is integrated with the other caliper on the front wheel, so when you apply it, it mostly applies rear braking, but also applies braking to the other front caliper at the same time. This means you have 3 pairs of pads to change if you replace all the brakes at one time. I'm a some what aggressive rider and I'm getting about 15k miles on a set of O.E.M. pads. O.E.M pads are about $35 per pair depending on who you buy from. There are cheaper after market brands, but I won't go there.
I've been told that fuel injection was available as an option, but I have yet to see it on a 1500. Maybe someone else here can verify or debunk this. All of the 1800's I've seen are fuel injected.
Removing the rear wheel is a pain compared to other smaller bikes, but it's still not that bad if you have a way to lift the bike and someone to help for about 5 min while removing and again while re-installing the rear carriage assembly (trunk and saddle bags). There are detailed instructions here for doing this also.

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:15 pm

Oh wow so they are not FI, I would have thought they were....well there is no worry of the FI pump going south now is there :lol: ...So it has linked brakes...Good gas milage, strong, large, plenty of parts available...Hummm...Oh and my wife might be a bit more comfortable for sure ..She doesn't ride on my 11..I want those arm thingy's..for the passenger.. :shock:

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby hugger-4641 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:01 pm

That's the main reason I have one. I really wanted a Valkerie, but after taking my wife for a ride on several friend's Goldwings, she was adamant that I get a Goldwing. I even took her for rides on 1800 vtx, HD ultra classic, 2000 Vulcan, & a few others. She was still set on the Goldwing, so I told her if she would ride with me more, I'd get the Goldwing, and if she didn't I would soon trade it for something else. Now that I have had it for a while, I don't think I would trade it for anything else. I like it whether she's with me or not. But, she does ride with me a lot now, and once in a while, she falls asleep. I'll pull up to a stoplight and feel her helmet hit the back of mine because she's asleep! So definitely get the arm rests!

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:10 pm

Oh my,,, Hugger have you ever considered selling these? You're pretty good at it.. :D

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby hugger-4641 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:28 pm

No!!! I'm no salesman!! But I do know what I like. I like to ride. I do not like to work on bikes anymore than I have to. I like to ride all day if I want. I don't care what anyone else think's about my bike (read between the lines on that: "I don't care to own an HD!") Used to be I wasn't concerned about comfort either. I was one of those guys who said I'd never own a bike with a windshield. I was an idiot. I wish I had bought a Goldwing twenty years ago!
You won't be disappointed with a Goldwing unless you are one of those people who is more concerned with looking cool & having HD riders wave at you than you are about pure riding, dependability, and being comfortable!

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:01 pm

I actually sold my Nomad because I didn't want to be associated with the Harley group of people, people would be afraid of me because of it..who needs that. :shock:. And yes it was the bike...Harley's are not for me..I don't want to be a badass, never wanted that, I made a mistake getting the Nomad..Nice bike though..My eldest daughter went off to school and we needed some money quick so I sold that sucker thinking I'll get me a nice wing later on, but I still had my 1100 to ride... :D the idea my wife might enjoy a ride on it thrills me to no end..

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby HALBUDD » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:12 pm

Ok Martin I have been ridding my 1500 now for some time, I took my 1200 out Sunday just to blow the cobwebs out. Man I sure do notice a big difference between the two bikes. One the 1500 has more room all around and will turn and handle much better then the 1200,the 1200 feels a little cramped up and my feet dont feel as comfortable and she feels stiff. As far as for the wife the seat is a full size just like the front one instead of just a long pad like the one on yours and the 1200. I put the arm rests on and the rear speakers so she is way more comfortable back there. Your just going to have to go and get your self one!!!! as you will be so much happier with a new to you 1500, and oh yea they are super bad out on the highway too. Hal
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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:38 pm

Yeh wingman seems to like his and I know Todd is never home now, always out riding...hummmm Thanks..

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby RoadRogue » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:07 am

Ok Martin now your starting to scare me. You know you wanna 1500. I must say that I am so happy with mine that I havent even finished putting the 1100 back together from the winter tear down.
This thing pulls like a frieght train,even a 10% grade in 5th gear. It is smooth as glass at 90MPH and the sound system is clear as a bell at that speed too. The 1500 handles well in the twisties, the linked brakes work well,much better with the braided lines added.Very comfy even after 10-12 hrs in the saddle.Yes there is a lot of plastic to remove and no there isnt alot of spare room under all that plastic to add things like air horns but with patience you can always find some space for what you need.
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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby Kiwi2 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:47 am

hugger-4641 wrote:I've owned various bikes since I was 12. These are the most dependable bikes you will ever own. I did a lot of research before I bought my 94 Aspencade. 94 was the first year that a crank sensor was used for the cruise control and reverse was standard on the Aspencade. Prior to 94, the cruise was slightly little better than a simple throttle lock. I have ridden several 1800's including my preacher's 2005 anniversery edition. The fuel mileage is a little better on the newer fuel injected bikes, mine is carbureted and I get 35 to 38mpg and my highway speeds generally stay between 65 and 75mph. If I stay under 65mph, I get about 40mpg. Between zero and 100k miles, there is very little that these bikes require aside from the usual brakes, batteries, tires, etc. Around 100k miles, the timing belt needs to be changed, if you pay a shop to do it, this will be one of the most expensive items to have done. I don't know what the limits are, but there are many, many of these bikes I have personally seen on the road with over 150k miles and a couple I know of have over 250k.


We have a 1500 in the New Zealand GoldWing Riders club that has done over 400,000 and it is still ticking along.

Now the only problem I have found with a GoldWing is refueling it ....... it takes two minutes to fill the tank and about 30 minutes to leave the service station as everyone want to know about it and what does what etc. etc., and then the little ol' ladies tell you about the days they did their courting on a motorcycle etc.

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:00 am

Sure sounds good so far, you fella's are really convincing.. :D

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby detdrbuzzard » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:25 pm

well beve i've had my 1200 wing since '07 and my 1500 wing since '08. you'll never know how big an improvement a 1500 is until you spend a few days in the saddle and ride it like you ride your 1100 wing
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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby Wingsconsin » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:39 pm

I have owned my 1500 for about 75K miles so far (117K+ on it)

Simple maintenance is all it really needs. The same things you do for the 1100 you will do for the 1500 except valve adjustments (hydraulic on the 1500's).
The early 1500's are not as interchangeable as the others..
ie: '88 & '89 are different from the rest in many ways, things like final drives do not mate up.
The best years to get are the '97 - '00. They started using strounger Valkyrie drive components in the Wings (optimized inventory).
The '95 & up are better as they use better bearings, and the side covers are different (slimmer) so reaching the groud is easier if you are vertically challenged.

Trouble items =
Alternators are weak spots - cure: Compufire Alt
Final drives can be problematic if not lubed regularly - cure: new trike take off final drive
mid 90's Fuel pumps were weak . They are inside the tank . Replacements are expensive but there are alternative methods of fixing this.
Brakes & tires are wear items - figure about 15K per set of tires to 20K. I usually change at 16K approx.

Be sure to get -
Aspencade or SE model to include things like reverse and CB radio (SE) as well as other amenities adn comforts.

Normally aspirated CV carbs (2 carbs feeding 6 cylinders)

Timing belts at 10 years or 100,000 miles - I did mine at 105,000 - they looked fine but once you are in there...change them.
Oil filters and Oil = Walmart Rotella T and Purolater off the shelf about $20 if you do it yourself.

Fuel economy on mine
Daily commuting - 37-38 MPG
Country roads - 40-44 MPG (at 55mph to 60mph)
Interstate - 35-37 MPG (at 70-75 mph)

Smooth - Power - Comfort - Storage -

Plastic blocks engine heat from legs.
Plastic is a bother sometimes to work on the bike as much comes off to get at just about anything. removing the left bag to get to the brakes, or replace tires is cumbersome. Changing the Air filter requires removig the seat, and a bunch of cockpit plastic to get under the radio to the Air filter... :?

Once you are used to it..it handles very well..It is NOT an 1100...There is less 'sport' bike feel and more 'comfort' feel.

MANY parts avaialable - 13 years in production - a lot of OEM still out there as well as aftermarket new products...

The GL1500 set the standard for all other touring bikes to be meassured (as did the 1200, and 1100 before it)...

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:37 pm

You guy's, I'm very thankful and I trust you're honest opinions, I like the hydrolic lifters idea, I'm going to start saving my money for one.. I'm going to focus on getting one I think.. It sure sounds inviting.. I don't think it would be a mistake either..someone actually got 400K on one of these..Wow.... I want that.. :shock: :lol:

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby HALBUDD » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:52 pm

What!!! do we have to do all of us need to ride down there and beat you with a Louisville slugger until you get one ? I am sure Todd and Doc will stop in and meet up with me so we can come down there and make sure you get the right 1500 for you. And if Mrs beaver reads how much more comfortable a 1500 would be for her ( guess I need to give her a call on your behalf ) but I can hear her now. Just cause all your friends have 1500 does not mean you have to have one haha. I will be waiting on the DAY you get your 1500 cause your in for it. Your friend Hal Budd
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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby HALBUDD » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:21 pm

Ok I found you a nice bike its on the Goldwing owners site I will see if I can post a pic for you he is asking 7500 but will obo . Hal

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby robb » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:27 pm

Gl1500 is like a crotch rocket with saddlebags. Real close in attitude to a wife, a little carressing and it will go anywhere at whatever speed you choose. I'm short but at about 10mph it handles with 2 fingers and is as smooth at 100 as it is at 35. Roll-on from 60 to 80 is so fast it's scarey and it has little problem lifting the front tire in the air. Have run it hard a few times and 38mpg is as bad as I have seen. Took a 1300 nile trip from NC to Georgia to Richmond and back riding every stray road we could find and averaged 49mpg 2up.

There is good and bad points for every year but in 89 when it said Aspencade it had everything, CB, radio, reverse, turning lights and more power than some newer models. Just pick one out, there all good.

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:25 pm

I knew you'd come around to this side of the house sooner or later, Martin! Just give in and go with it, you know you can't resist anyway!

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Re: How are these 1500's?

Postby themainviking » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:38 pm

WingAdmin wrote:I knew you'd come around to this side of the house sooner or later, Martin! Just give in and go with it, you know you can't resist anyway!


It's either that or an 1800..... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


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