1999 gl1500 Aspencade Won't start


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1999 gl1500 Aspencade Won't start

Postby Birdman-68 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:19 pm



I'm stuck and need help. By the way, I've only owned the wing since May. My wing sat inside my garage for 24 days without running. When I tried to start it, the engine turned over a couple of times and then stopped. I figured the battery needed recharging, so I hooked my "Wally World" trickle charger up directly to the terminals with the battery still hooked up in the wing. When I try to start it now the engine turns over nice and strong, but the bike will not start. Yes, I remembered the choke, it is in neutral, the clutch is in, and the kickstand is down. Anything I should be looking at?


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Re: 1999 gl1500 Aspencade Won't start

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:14 pm

Verify first if you have spark.Pull one plug wire and attach a spare plug and lay it on the engine.Crank it for a second or two and look.
If there is spark,then you have a fuel problem.
This can vary from a non running pump,plugged filter to condensed water in the bowls.
My own 88 sat outside for 2 weeks on the side stand(Louisiana)..I drove it to work (somewhat),It mostly ran on 3 cylinders.
Fortunately,the left bank quit and I was able to open the drain valve.It took compressed air in the drain tube and upper vent to get 3 tablespoons of water out of it.
It did run OK after that.Damn ethanol gas.
Let us know what you find please.

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Re: 1999 gl1500 Aspencade Won't start

Postby robb » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:52 pm

Check kill switch, it is OFF/ON/OFF, needs to be in center position. After mine sets for a few days it takes a few seconds to get fuel to carbs. Can get access to back plugs by removing chrome side covers.

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Re: 1999 gl1500 Aspencade Won't start

Postby banker16 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:19 am

Our 1500's take a lot of current to turn the starter AND fire the plugs. I really doubt that your Wally World "Trickle Charger" puts out enough amps to do both if the battery is dead? If your battery is the least bit low it may turn the motor over but there is not enough current to fire the plugs while it is supplying current to the starter. Sometimes the engines start the moment when we let off of the starter button. (The motor is still turning over and the battery has enough current to fire the plugs).

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Re: 1999 gl1500 Aspencade Won't start

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:40 am

I've heard that too.that's why I recommend checking for spark while cranking to find out if it's a spark or fuel problem.
I also tried to eliminate that problem on my 88 by relay control battery power direct to the ECM,thus bypassing all the wiring it has to go through and the voltage drop seen.I still use the harness wire to control the relay but now I have full battery power direct to the ECM.Same idea used in the 1200 ignition bypass to the regulator.it solved the charging issues too.

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Re: 1999 gl1500 Aspencade Won't start

Postby banker16 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:12 pm

I'd be interested in how you did that bypass? Sounds like it might be something I would be interested in. My 1500 failed to start several weeks ago and I had to have it taken to the dealer. They said they replaced a relay but the Service Manager said he didn't do the work and didn't know which one? I had ridden mine about 75 miles, stopped and talked for a half hour or so and when I went back it was completely dead. No lights, nothing. (BTW: The battery was new and fully charged)
virgilmobile wrote:I've heard that too.that's why I recommend checking for spark while cranking to find out if it's a spark or fuel problem.
I also tried to eliminate that problem on my 88 by relay control battery power direct to the ECM,thus bypassing all the wiring it has to go through and the voltage drop seen.I still use the harness wire to control the relay but now I have full battery power direct to the ECM.Same idea used in the 1200 ignition bypass to the regulator.it solved the charging issues too.

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Re: 1999 gl1500 Aspencade Won't start

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:32 pm

Is your bike now OK?A bad main relay could have caused this.

My mod adds a relay to provide battery power via a #12 fused wire directly to the ECM.Just a bit more volts to compensate for a stressed battery.

I simply cut the 12 volt ignition wire that fed the ECM and used it to operate the relay.The switched output of the relay goes back to the cut wire on the ECM.

This way,when you turn on the ignition,it clicks the relay,It provides good battery power to the ECM rather than the ECM getting the volts from all the relays,switches,angle sensor,etc.It eliminates inherent voltage drop in the system.
This helps when the battery is weak and will crank the motor but not have quite enough power to fire the ignition.
Soooo....in your case,my mod would not have helped....You didn't have any volts anywhere to operate the relay.




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