Starting Your Wing


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Starting Your Wing

Postby Wolfster » Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:17 pm



OK, I've got a question on starting your wing. I've just recently purchased a 1989 GL1500 and it had been sitting in a shed for over a year...it needed to be put it in the shop to get the carbs rebuilt, tuneup, fluids changed ect. Since I've had the bike I have to do a full choke to start it in the morning or after it has been sitting and has completely cooled, and let it run for at lease five minutes and all the while gradually closing it before It can idle without the choke. The temperatures have been in the 80's, 90's and now 70's and it don't matter....have to full choke to start and wait for temperature needle to rise 1/4 to 1/2 before it will idle...once it has warmed it starts and runs great. Is this normal for a 1989 GL1500 :?:



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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby Mag » Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:12 pm

I have had an 89 and now an 88 (go fig they look exactly the same)....and mine is definitely that way from a cold start, no matter what the weather. I only have to have it run for about 30 seconds though and then tone down on the choke, all is ok. I would think 5 mins is a little long.

It does run like a top after moving!

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby robb » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:09 pm

My 89 requires using the choke about 95% of the time. Ten to fifteen seconds and half choke for ten more and all is OK. Last week it was near 100 degree and it still took choke to start. After a while you want give it another thought, just do it and ride.

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:26 pm

If it's 85 or above, my bike might need choke to start, but not for more than a few seconds.

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby dingdong » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:49 am

With my 93 even in winter full to start and and immediate move to 1/2 then never more than 1 minute til full off.
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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:44 am

I used my choke once or twice the last month or so.I find that after a few days of setting,if I cycle the kill switch 3-4 times (over 15 seconds) to run the fuel pump to fill the carbs, then give the throttle one twist (for the accelerator pump) it starts easier.
Well as quick as the ignition system will start sparking.
Mine also is just a bit rich on fuel when cold but settles down after 2 blocks of riding.

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby Wolfster » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:29 pm

Thanks, I thought I would ask because I saw a guy start his aspencade after 8 hrs. of work and take off in like 1 minute with no problem and I thought to myself...mine will never do that... maybe something needs to be repaired. It's probably more like 3 minutes than 5 minutes for my wing like I said before, but it just seems like a long time to wait when you want to ride! :)

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby Mag » Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:42 pm

Sometimes 3 mins still seems longer than it is. I think you are ok with all the responses everyone has. By the way, NICE BIKE BUD (lotsa similarities...)

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby Kiwi2 » Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:40 pm

I have had my 1500/6 (1988) since brand new, and I for the first start of the day I have always had to use the choke ....... it takes a bit to warm up and at time seems ages ....... like waiting for a picture to down load from the net, but time is relative.

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby Mag » Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:00 pm

Kiwi - now you have me thinking how much time I am wasting staring at the bike waiting to go for a ride, :shock:

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby Kiwi2 » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:08 pm

If you have it warming up while putting your riding gear on ........ then by the time you are ready to go it will be warmed up.

I fine that the guys are worse for nattering when ready to go. The guyesses are ready for the ride and are telling the guys to hurry up. :lol:

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby robb » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:33 pm

Wolfster wrote:Thanks, I thought I would ask because I saw a guy start his aspencade after 8 hrs. of work and take off in like 1 minute with no problem and I thought to myself...mine will never do that... maybe something needs to be repaired. It's probably more like 3 minutes than 5 minutes for my wing like I said before, but it just seems like a long time to wait when you want to ride! :)


I have never had to use choke for more than 30 seconds before taking off. If I crank the bike it will be ready to roll before I can get helmet out of tourpac and get it on my head. One minute is well within reason.

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby tandem54 » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:27 pm

I have an 88 and mine is definitely that way from a cold start, no matter what the weather. I start it and set the RPM to around 2000 while I put my gear on and that's long enough, IF I'm in a hurry I just start out with the choke at the 2000 rpm and turn it off as soon as I'm going down the road!!
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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby amsoilguy » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:11 pm

My '88 is about the same as most other responses...15-30 seconds of choke on cold starts.

Mine still has the 'hesitation' problem that I need to address this winter.
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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby noeleo » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:14 pm

I have found that on these cooler (+50*F ) mornings, I just set about 1/3 choke, twist the throttle a couple of shots and it starts right up. Idles around 1000. Can just drop it into gear and ride away. Just have to remember to open the choke after I get on the big road going to work (about 1-1/2 minutes).

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby Scanjo » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:17 am

I have an 89 as well. I had the same issue you describe. Very cold blooded. Needed choke at least part way on till it warmed all the way up or it was boggy at idle. I did fix mine! Your mileage may vary but this is what I found on mine. I had a vacuum leak. You need to remove the lower fairing side cover (the piece over the radiador) and you'll see a vacuum line attached to the intake manifold right above the head. It has a tight bend where it connects and being as old as it is it is probably cracked or broken right there. There is a vacuum line on both sides. I plan to go through mine this winter and have the carbs cleaned. While they are off I will be replacing ALL the 20+ year old rubber lines and hoses. There is enough slack to simply cut off an inch or so and reattach for a temporary fix.

Over 80 degrees requires no choke now. It's still boggy but I think that's accelerator pump related which will be taken care of when it's cleaned. If I crack the throttle several times before cranking then the bogginess is much less pronounced. It now starts in cold weather (40s) which was virtually impossible before. Colder than that I really don't care as I don't have heated gear. I'm leaving it parked. lol

Good luck.

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby chalfast » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:43 am

Could it be low vacuum for the petcock to make hard starting?? my 94 cranks so long i`d swear it was not going to fire up. tried the throttle pump trick , did not make a difference .. Once started no problem the rest of the day.Go figure!

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby robb » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:32 pm

When I went through my bike I did a vacumn test with a hand tool and found no leaks or damage other than the two 90 degree ports on heads. No more choke is needed with both head ports leaking than when repaired. When Honda said to use the choke to start bike they meant it. At 40 degree it still requires less than 1 minute of choke to display full power.

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Re: Starting Your Wing

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:05 pm

chalfast wrote:Could it be low vacuum for the petcock to make hard starting?? my 94 cranks so long i`d swear it was not going to fire up. tried the throttle pump trick , did not make a difference .. Once started no problem the rest of the day.Go figure!


If you suspect....unhook the vacuum line and test it.Obviously ,to pull enough vacuum,the throttle must remain closed and should pulse on each piston intake stroke.
I found my accelerator pump riser tube had bad "O" rings,and the vacuum fuel valve leaking.I did bypass the valve for testing.
Mine will pop off after 2-3 seconds of cranking.I give it one twist for the accelerator pump and 1/3 choke to run it at 1500 rpm for another 15-20 seconds.
Spark,compression,fuel.
Yours may be low on fuel in the carb and it's taking that long to get more into it.
Personally,I'd bypass the vacuum valve first and try again.It would be the bottleneck in fuel flow system.If persistent,a electric valve can be fitted.
One last note...My 88 had the same loooong crank issue.
I did mod mine to a electric valve,fixed the accelerator pump and seals and also added a relay to switch battery volts direct to the ECM and coils.I found that during cranking,the ECM voltage was dropping to near 9.5 volts.Now it stays at the battery volts.I defiantly don't have a weak cranking spark issue anymore.




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