1999 1500 SE Side stand issues


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1999 1500 SE Side stand issues

Postby rcrab » Wed May 01, 2013 1:56 pm



Hi guys,
I was just wondering if anyone else is having problems with the side kick stand on the 1500 SE model Goldwing? I own a 99 and every time the bike is parked on a slight down hill it rolls off the stand. If I am pushing back into the garage and bump the stand on something on the ground or my foot, it folds up half way. If I don't notice it will go down. In the last month the bike has been down four times. I backed it into a line up with a bunch of Harley owners and it went down about 30 seconds after getting off of it. Talk about an embarrassment. Now I have ordered a new spring for the stand and hope that will fix the problem. I have owned probably 20 bikes over the years and this is the only one that does this. I have owned an 1100, 1200 and now this 1500 SE. It is the only one with the problem. What gives??



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Re: 1999 1500 SE Side stand issues

Postby RBGERSON » Wed May 01, 2013 4:19 pm

A new spring will only be stiffer and make the problem worse??? ON a hill pointing forward or back turn the wheel hard over to avoid rolling..or put it in gear as to the other issues..that's normal..be sure your stand is all the way out adn it's supposed to be easy to kick up..
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Re: 1999 1500 SE Side stand issues

Postby Jeff_A » Wed May 01, 2013 9:08 pm

I too have a 99 SE but have not had this problem. Nor do I wish for it to start. All else fails, I think I would just replace the stand. Would probably be cheaper in the long run instead of making other repairs ever time it falls over. Not to mention if it falls over in a parking lot and lands against another vehicle.
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Re: 1999 1500 SE Side stand issues

Postby WingAdmin » Wed May 01, 2013 11:02 pm

The side stand uses an over-center lock, so that once it passes maximum extension, the spring actually pulls it up against the stop, to hold the stand in place. It's possible a weak spring could not be holding it there tight enough.

Perhaps it's not extending all the way? Or the stand itself is bent?

Here's a tip in the meantime: Before you shut down, shift into reverse, then shut the engine off. This will lock the rear wheel in place, and not allow the bike to roll off the stand. When you get back on, shift out of reverse before starting (the bike won't start when in reverse).

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Re: 1999 1500 SE Side stand issues

Postby rcrab » Thu May 02, 2013 10:25 am

Wing admin,
So the side stand does have a lock? I know Harleys do. Do you think there is something broke in the stand or does it just "cam over" against the stop and the spring holds it there? I will put the new spring on today. I hope it helps. Never had this problem with any bike before. Road Riders post show others having the same problem and they just shut it off in gear or reverse. Never have had to do that before unless it is an extreme down hill situation. Heck I dropped it in the garage the other day because the stand touched my shoe. I didn't even feel it touch my shoe or notice it had moved. If it is up a 1/4 inch it will fold up. Not past center. So I don't get why it does this. I was washing it in a carwash bay. I might of had a 1-3/4 inch drop to the drain. I had set there for 10 possible 15 minuets. I was drying it off and leaned on it lightly while wiping the chrome on the side bag. It rolled off the stand. I don't think it should do this. Do you?
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Re: 1999 1500 SE Side stand issues

Postby WingAdmin » Sun May 05, 2013 10:24 pm

rcrab wrote:Wing admin,
So the side stand does have a lock? I know Harleys do. Do you think there is something broke in the stand or does it just "cam over" against the stop and the spring holds it there? I will put the new spring on today. I hope it helps. Never had this problem with any bike before. Road Riders post show others having the same problem and they just shut it off in gear or reverse. Never have had to do that before unless it is an extreme down hill situation. Heck I dropped it in the garage the other day because the stand touched my shoe. I didn't even feel it touch my shoe or notice it had moved. If it is up a 1/4 inch it will fold up. Not past center. So I don't get why it does this. I was washing it in a carwash bay. I might of had a 1-3/4 inch drop to the drain. I had set there for 10 possible 15 minuets. I was drying it off and leaned on it lightly while wiping the chrome on the side bag. It rolled off the stand. I don't think it should do this. Do you?
rcrab


It just cams over and the spring holds it there. It sounds to me like yours is not going anywhere near as far forward as it should - certainly not 1/4 inch!

I took some pictures for you. The point at where my kickstand starts to cam over, and the spring begins to pull it forward, is when the kickstand is pointing almost straight down:

Kickstand Cam Point
Kickstand Cam Point


Here is my kickstand fully forward:

Kickstand Fully Forward
Kickstand Fully Forward


When fully forward, the bottom of the foot is parallel to the ground:

Kickstand Foot<br />Kickstand Foot
Kickstand Foot
Kickstand Foot

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Re: 1999 1500 SE Side stand issues

Postby toanogreen » Tue May 07, 2013 8:42 pm

I also have a 99 SE. When I purchased it the previous owner had installed a chrome kickstand. To me, it has some of the same issues. If I don't park on level ground I see it slightly move as if to fold up. I make exta effort each time I dismount to make sure of how it's setting before I let go of it. I use the center stand regularly just to make sure. The chrome stand makes the bike stand taller which makes it seem to almost want to fall the other way. I've never dropped it, but I always am cautious as to where and how I park. I NEVER park facing a downward slope.




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