Hazard light system


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Hazard light system

Postby Dogsled » Mon May 13, 2013 5:27 pm



I hit the hazards once on my bike at a rest stop on the freeway and it stuck on. I tried like heck to turn them off but nothing....... so I yanked them out with pliers to turn them off, hence, breaking the whatever inside that clicks them off and on.
Anyway, I can push in and hold the lights on so they work so there was no wiring damage. What's the best way to buy the internal parts I need to replace the broken piece. OR is there a better way to over ride these sticking switches with an external one?


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Re: Hazard light system

Postby virgilmobile » Tue May 14, 2013 1:01 pm

Purchase a complete assembly or disconnect the wiring and wire to a DPST toggle switch.
Something like this....

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Re: Hazard light system

Postby Dogsled » Tue May 14, 2013 6:56 pm

thanks for the schematic virgil.....I like the external switch idea......I may look and see what the switch kit would cost...OEM I can only imagine. $$$$$

Everything works as long as I hold my finger om the buttom....I wonder how long i could fool a LEO if I get stopped for an inspection..... :D
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Re: Hazard light system

Postby cbx4evr » Tue May 14, 2013 7:57 pm

Dogsled wrote:I wonder how long i could fool a LEO if I get stopped for an inspection..... :D



I don't think hazard warning lights are a requirement on motorcycles. Some have them most don't . Cops won't care if they work or not.
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Re: Hazard light system

Postby Fiberthree » Tue May 14, 2013 11:00 pm

You might check eBay for the switch pod. As far as the sticking switches... nothing a good dose of contact cleaner can't fix. You'll find your cruise control switch doing the same thing. Either slow to activate or slow to release. Just spray them and operate them to free up the hardened switch grease inside.
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Re: Hazard light system

Postby Dogsled » Wed May 15, 2013 8:31 am

Fiberthree wrote:You might check eBay for the switch pod. As far as the sticking switches... nothing a good dose of contact cleaner can't fix. You'll find your cruise control switch doing the same thing. Either slow to activate or slow to release. Just spray them and operate them to free up the hardened switch grease inside.



Well you have to get inside the switch to free it up with spray, i've tried it. I happed to be on the road when I hit the hazard and I tried everything to get it out. (Prolly a fuse would have shut it down) but I opted for pliers and a yank. That switch stuck since I got it and I never did anything about it, aka internal spray (my bad). I go fishing alot and down some dusty roads maybe contributing to the dirty switches more often.
Another switch means same problem. The oddest thing is the starter button sticking just a hair after start-up and the lights staying off. I have to pull it back with my finger....seems like it doesn't even move but I guess it does. External spraying helps that.

If the LEOS don't care, neither do I. Ohio highway patrol are sticklers though.

That external switch idea sounds good to me. OEM replacement seems to be asking for the same problem.
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Re: Hazard light system

Postby virgilmobile » Wed May 15, 2013 10:52 am

Generally speaking...If the bike has equipment..it has to work..
By the book....
Our locals don't much care about bikes unless there obviously defective....They just won't take the effort to check everything unless there is a real need for it.

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Re: Hazard light system

Postby Dogsled » Wed May 15, 2013 11:22 am

I know there could be a maybe or not.......my luck, that would be the thing I got a ticket on. Virgil, any ideas on a good location for a new non OEM switch? If I clean out the old switch, there may be room inside the original housing..
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Re: Hazard light system

Postby virgilmobile » Wed May 15, 2013 11:35 am

They do make very small dpst switches that could be made to fit in the hole but look first At the specs of the switch.Smaller usually means small contacts too.A microswitch may not be able to carry the power required by the circuit.
Your gonna flash 4 lamps.all that current has to go through the switch.
I don't know for certain what the amp draw is but the switch contacts will need to be rated at least %125 above that.
I'll dig a little deeper into it and post the results ASAP.
I have switches and lamps where I work so I can simulate the circuit.

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Re: Hazard light system

Postby Dogsled » Wed May 15, 2013 11:50 am

Thanks....in the mean time i'll look at cyclemax micro fishe and see if they make and sell the switch alone and how much it costs.
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Re: Hazard light system

Postby virgilmobile » Wed May 15, 2013 1:28 pm

A quick and dirty test.....
A turn lamp draws right at 2 amp....your 4 hazards would draw 8 amp...
Rating the switch at %125 would require a switch contact rating of at least 10 amp.
Now for the switch....my micro switch is rated at 5 amp..Hmmmm.
First thought is not enough till I realized that is "per switch"...it's got 2 of them in it....
Hopefully,combined,it would handle the power .It is borderline capable.A larger switch would work better.
Check this site...http://www.ck-components.com/product-ma ... 44,en.html

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Re: Hazard light system

Postby virgilmobile » Thu May 16, 2013 2:32 pm

I just had another brain fade....
You could use a very small light duty switch of your choice.....Run the wires from it to click a DPST relay....let it handle the power....
I've even seen push on push off ones at Radio shack....plenty big enough to click a relay on. :D




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