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89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby KEVS89WING » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:04 pm



I want to add rear speakers to the empty cavities on my 89. I have a couple tiny bose dash speakers out of my 2003 envoy that I want to wire up. They fit perfectly. I have read many of your articles, but they all mention a fader control kit. I don't care about a fader. I am just gonna hook them up direct. Which wires do I wire them into? I have read on here about some of you blowing an amp or a channel or something, and I don't want to wire them to the wrong connections. Thanks all!


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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:23 am

You can then just wire them up in parallel with the front speakers - positive to positive, negative to negative, left speaker to left speaker and so on.

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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby KEVS89WING » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:27 am

Ok great, that's exactly what I wanna do. Should I just route wiring from the back speakers forward under the seat, and then just find the wires from the front speakers and just splice in? Are the fronts red and black? Thanks
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby bustedwing » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:08 pm

That's what I did, but I went right to the speaker connections and ran new wire from there to the new speakers. The rear speakers are not as loud as the front speakers but the better half can hear just fine now. That was the objective.
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby KEVS89WING » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:11 am

Fantastic. Thanks my friends. I will give it a go this morning.
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby KEVS89WING » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:22 am

Ok. I figured out how to mount the little speakers in the rear armrest. I have also run wiring up to the front speakers and I will splice them in to the front wiring. I just have to figure out what kind of plastic barrier of some sort some sort of rain barrier I can put under the screening over the rear speakers so it Will block the rain But yet won't ruin the sound quality altogether and Muffle the sound of the music. Any ideas?
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby Mag » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:27 am

I actually have speaker fabric put in there....figure for my first time this would work (and it is inexpensive). I was able to find this fabric at the local JoAnn's Fabrics. Have not ridden in the rain yet, so do not know how well it will work.

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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby KEVS89WING » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:34 am

Speaker fabric? Ok, but won't water "pool" and then soak through the fabric onto the speaker? The speaker grill is perfectly flat, and not sloped (Which would allow the water to roll off). Of course I am ready to try anything, but if water gets in there one time, it will ruin the speakers correct? These are the little tweeter speakers from my 2003 GMC envoy. They are Bose speakers with nice sized little magnets. I think they will sound fantastic But I just don't want to lose them on the first rain. Lol. Thanks for that info! I will go there and get it :)
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby Mag » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:11 pm

Not to say what I am doing will work or not, welcome to working on your own bike though.....trial and error, right?

I cut the fabric to fit the inside of the speaker case....mine is actually "bent" and the speakers sit offset pointing at an angle out through the grill. Due to the fabric sitting tight to the inside of the plastic speaker grill, I am hoping I do not have as much of a problem with rain run off. And if I do, I will replace the speaks with the waterproof marine ones that are more meant to handle the NW weather.

Now, for you, you have BOSE and those will sound sweet. I would not put them in the weather at all, since they would be pricey to lose.

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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby themainviking » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:46 am

If the rain does ruin your speakers, I have a set of Polk db501 speakers I could sell you. They are marine grade, so are waterproof, and they have very nice sound. Perhaps not as sharp as the Bose, but pretty close. As far as waterproofing inside speakers to use outside, I don't think you are going to be totally successful. If you ride in the rain and get them wet while the stereo is on, they will disintegrate. Sorry to not have better news. Anyway, as the shipping cost would not be great, if you want Polk db501s, it would probably be better to get them here.

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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby KEVS89WING » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:00 am

Both of you with great info! Yep I went to the fabric store JoAnn fabrics and bought speaker cloth and I sprayed some water repellent on it and I'm going to triple layer it all inside the speaker grills. If the speakers ruin, oh well. No big deal since they came out of my Envoy and I put a new system in it. As for the second part about the Polk speakers, I am talking about back ones, and aren't the 5 inch Polks for the front? The little Bose speakers that I am putting in the rear look like they are like two or 3 inch speakers. But they have large magnets. Either way, I'm going to give this a shot. I finally got their wiring hooked up and clipped into the front speaker wires. While I had all of the panels off, I went ahead and installed a power outlet and wired directly to the battery. So now I will have charging capabilities for my GPS, phone etc. I love working on my Goldwing especially since here in Mansfield Ohio, it has been raining almost every day for the last two weeks or more and is predicted to continue raining for the next week! This is a great opportunity to add accessories to my big girl :D I will let you all know how the speakers hold up after they get flooded with rain !
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby KEVS89WING » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:51 am

Well, they DON'T WORK! I went to the fabric store and got speaker cloth. Then I sprayed water repellent on them. Then I tested them. And the water repellent right off the cloth! Beautiful! Now all's I have to do is put them in the grills. So I did that. And then I hooked up the speakers and nothing! They are Bose speakers so I figured maybe they needed a power source also. So I went and got a couple other speakers that I know work from a car stereo. Hooked them up to positive and negative, and nothing. I spliced the rear speaker wiring into the front speaker wiring directly with crimp splicers. So I got nothing as far as rear speaker sound. back to the drawing board I guess.
I hooked the positive wires from the rear speakers spliced directly into the positive wires of the front speakers. I also spliced the negative wires from the rear speakers into the negative wire of the front speaker. And nothing. Hmmmmmm?
The front speakers still work normally when the radio is on.
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby bustedwing » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:53 pm

Did you use speaker wire? Can you confirm that the wire has continuity? If you use a jumper wire will the speakers work?
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby Mag » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:44 pm

Let's claim a small victory here....the fabric worked!! I forgot all about spraying water repellent on it, I will do the same for now.

ARMS IN THE AIR!

Now, for no sound...hmmmm, I will leave that up to someone that understands electronics way more than me, still learning. ;)

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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby KEVS89WING » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:48 pm

Mag, YES! The fabric makes the water ricochet off! But Bustedwing, the speaker wire is all new.. Brand new wire with no breaks anywhere. Direct connect to the front speaker wire (spliced in about 6 inches from the speaker itself). And yet... No sound at the back speakers. Nada.
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby bustedwing » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:04 am

Something is wrong there, either a bad connection or bad speakers. You know you have power at the original speakers, from there what happened? If you have some new wire you can use as a temp jumper run them from one of the front speakers to one of the rear speakers. It may be easier to take one of the rear speakers back out and use a pair of short jumper wires. That will tell you without a doubt if it is the wire or the speakers.
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby KEVS89WING » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:08 pm

Well, i suppose you are right. I will have to go back in and take it apart again and Check the wire splicing. I obviously didn't get the wires connected good enough. I will jumper them closer to the speaker. I will keep you updated as it occurs
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby redial » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:05 pm

Did you solder the wires together, or just do a wrap around. Soldering is preferred, and then get some shrink stuff to insulate the join from everything. Although twisting or wrapping them around each other is alright for temporary work, it is much better to make a good soldered joint, and then you will be able to listen to highs :roll:
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby liquineer » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:04 am

I had exactly the same problem. The PO had wired the speakers at the rear directly to the front- there was almost no sound from them. After help on here and from another forum, I found all the plugs to allow the fader (which was on the bike but not connected) to be connected in and I made up some wires for the rear speakers and connected in to the rear plug under the seat- it works perfectly now and I can fade the rears in and out as I fany.
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby KEVS89WING » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:32 pm

Liquineer! REAR PLUG UNDER THE SEAT!!?? Do all the Wings have that? What does it look like??? Thanks!
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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby liquineer » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:40 am

My '88 has it, and I believe many other years do as well. I do have a picture but I'm strugglong to post it here- in my case the plug had a white plastic cap as protection over the pins- it is towards the rear of the seat area and has a black coloured body containing four wires coloured red, brown, grey and blue and is possibly covered by a rubber boot.

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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby redial » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:59 pm

To post a photo or other to your message, go to the end of the text box, below "Save Draft" etc, and you will see a couple of tabs: "Options" and "Upload attachment" - the Upload attachment is the one you want. As long as you have a digital photo, stored on your computer somewhere, you will be able to upload.

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Re: 89 gl1500 rear speaker addition ?

Postby liquineer » Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:28 am

OK, will try the upload attachment route.The boot can be seen near to the bottom of the photograph which is where the plug is. My apologoes for the dirty state of this area, it was the first time I had had the seat off after purchasing the Wing and it was a mess of wires, dirt etc. You can also see the two twin white wires that used to connect the front and rear speakers together running down either side. The black box was part of an obsolete comms system, and I have a newer one now that will be fitted shortly. (Once I get my Wing back as a trike on Friday this week)
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