Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?


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Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby Wingsconsin » Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:42 am



I have an opportunity to pick up a gentle used 1989 GL1500 for what I believe is a fairly reasonable price. My son currently rides a 1980 GL1100 Interstate ; but we would love to get him onto something with Cruise and a built in CB radio , along with the other amenities of a 1500....

Money is right so that is not a consideration -

I KNOW the '89s have a different rear drive flange & final drive...6 pins vs 5 .
The rest of the differences I have no idea as compared to my '96 GL1500....

So - Any opinions on what to look for, why NOT to make this deal...?

We have to make a choice in the next few days so your responses are welcomed...


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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby amsoilguy » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:08 am

Well, I'm sure you are familiar with the '88/'89 hesitation issues. I've only owned my '88 for a year and I'm already wishing I had done some prior research and looked for a little newer year model. Good luck.
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Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:51 am

I drive a 88 now...The first gl1500.....Yes it had "issues"....but nothing that was not curable to make it dead reliable and a great ride.
There were some changes starting in 1990 that improved the carb problems of the 88-89 models.
My other "issues" were the same as all the other bikes...belts,brakes,forks,etc,etc.....

Do inspect the rear swing arm inside area for rust and look at the date of the tires....A good looking 10 year old tire is not what I would want on the bike....Both can set you back $350.

So.... test ride the bike...the common 'off idle hesitation' may have been fixed on this bike.The rest is just maintenance....tires,brakes,belts,switches and the like...
By the way,I purchased mine for $2500 knowing that there was a $2000 dealer estimate for service,which I did myself for just a few hundred and a bunch of labor.
Average price for a gl1500 of any age here starts at $3800 and goes up to $7500 asking price.
Obviously with only a tail light guarantee....

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:11 am

amsoilguy wrote:Well, I'm sure you are familiar with the '88/'89 hesitation issues. I've only owned my '88 for a year and I'm already wishing I had done some prior research and looked for a little newer year model. Good luck.

There is some word that replacing the 88/89 carbs with a later model drastically improves the hesitation problem.
Just a thought.

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby liquineer » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:01 am

I have an '88 and I don't have any noticeable hesitation on mine, so may be it was fixed by a PO? If it is a good price, I would go for it.
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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:44 am

There actually was a factory recall that included replacing the ECM,CCM,rerouting vacuum lines and changing the jets in the carbs.
In the "Manuals" section,you can read about it.
Under gl1500 drivability issues.

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby Wingsconsin » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:01 pm

virgilmobile wrote:There actually was a factory recall that included replacing the ECM,CCM,rerouting vacuum lines and changing the jets in the carbs.
In the "Manuals" section,you can read about it.
Under gl1500 drivability issues.

Awesome information...
When I spoke to the seller yeesterday I asked him about the hesitation issue prone to the'88s & '89s.
He is the second owner - he bought it from the orginal purshaser - and he says he has never noticed the hesitation...?
I HOPE (if I am lucky) that the Original owner had the recall done , or it was done before it came off the showroom ...
Then I think this would be a really good purchase (if everything checks out)

Any feel for Fuel economy numbers for this vintage 1500...?

I KNOW my '96 numbers - but wonder if they are similar ....?

Thanks everyone for the great input....I am liking this bike more & more already...if it checks out...
My son is gonna go crazy..... :lol:
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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:25 pm

Mileage is all over the place.....My heavily modified 88 holds 38 or so in town driving..Unknown on a long interstate trip...I usually stick to the back winding roads and I like to stretch the forks out every chance I get....You know..just to hear the little squeak from the rear. :D :D

Some claim 45 mpg,but I don't ride my bike for fuel economy anyways.

I sure your aware of the handling differences between the 1100 and the 1500....

I kinka think of it as switching from a big Horse to a Clydesdale...Takes a bit to get the hang of it..
Just fair warning for jr.
I was a bit overwhelmed (for 4 seconds) after leaving my 1100 and jumping on the 88

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:31 pm

By the way....if you get it for him..you better have someone with a video camera taking pictures....
We'd love to see his reaction to such a great gift.....

Would you adopt me/?? :)

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby Wingsconsin » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:52 pm

virgilmobile wrote:By the way....if you get it for him..you better have someone with a video camera taking pictures....
We'd love to see his reaction to such a great gift.....

Would you adopt me/?? :)


Good Idea...(The video not the adoption)...
HE will be paying for the bike over time...Selling his 1100 is the first step..
But the Bank of Mom is the one financing this little endeavor.

He HAS riden my 1500 and that is what got us talking about an upgrade...
Then this one appeared available and ..here we are...
He knows the change in driving..and my bike has a car tire rear...
So the new to him 1500 would be better (to him) than my 1500..

You mileage seems like mine on the '96 ..about 38 MPG commuting and 40+ country side tooling around
I have seen 50 MPG twice but usually low 40's...INterstate is nearly always 35-37 MPG.

This is going to be interesting..We have a trip planned for mid-August... :P
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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:04 pm

Well I had to ask...no harm.. :roll:
Sounds like you made up your mind.
Just do the routine maintenance, get a new set of timing belts in it and enjoy the ride.

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby Wingsconsin » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:39 am

Test rode and inspected last night...
Runs good - NO hesitation...
All paint excellent- Panels are all perfect - seat in good shape - brakes new - final drive tight -
a few rattles when you hit a bump....
Perhaps it needs soemone to go over it and tighten all the fasteners... :|

Needs -- Shifter seal leaking - New front springs (Progressives ~$99) - Grips (~$30) - Tires (~$300)

Future wish lists items are more lighting in the saddlebags & trunk sides -

I made a good offer - Cash - but he wouldn't budge off his number
We are about $150 apart right now...but he wanted to sleep on it and call me..
The waiting game begins.....



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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby robb » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:26 am

I'm second owner of a 89 and no hesitation here. Did have to repair 90 degree bends on vacumn tubes at heads and all is good. Have seen 40 mpg once, that was before repair to tubes and new plugs. Now it is consistently 44-45 two up riding, averaged 49 over a 1300 mile trip. Tried a short shield and mileage dropped so Tulsa tall went back on. Have a slight clunk going into second gear that goes away after few miles riding.
Bike has always been garaged and when out on trip it is covered at night. Only repair issue known since new was alternator ( now 90 amp) and last year when I lost high beam. Replaced relay and rode on. Only has 75k but I have another bike that is primarily for when I ride alone.

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:46 am

My plastic rattles a bit too.
I do use "lid keepers" by the way.ya don't want them expensive covers flying off.
As I removed all the covers,I added a small strip of the fuzzy side of Velcro fastener material to any wear spots.This kept things tight and reduced the squeaking and are hidden from view.

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby Mag » Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:27 am

So....is the bike deal done?

No probs with my 88, and my 89 before this had the vacuum issue and after that was fixed, no issues. In fact, the guy that I traded a 67 chev pickup for the 89 is still driving the 89 today (gonna meet up with him later to compare and match to my 88).

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby Wingsconsin » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:59 pm

The deal is not done ...
I made an offer that I did not want to spend above...
He wanted to think it over ..
He called the next day and raised the price ....?!
I told him to call me when he wants to sell it...my offer stands....
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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby bjatwood » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:19 pm

150 dollars apart and the deal can't be closed?!?!?
Man that is tough negotiating!

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby Mag » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:46 pm

May I ask how much and how many miles?

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby Wingsconsin » Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:16 pm

Mag wrote:May I ask how much and how many miles?


He is asking 4450 ..will settle for 4300 ...
I offered 4000 flat ....
It needs 400 to 500 worth of work and tax title license insurance will nearly 750 more...
So i would be in for 5100 5200 .....
The 300 we are now apart is the cost of tires..he says the ones on the bike would last thru the end of year for him easy ...he rides 1000 miles per year....tires are a must !,
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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby bjatwood » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:34 am

Your son is going to pay you back "The Bank of Mom" right? Ask him if he wants to pay back the difference between you and the seller. If he says yes then your not out anything I believe. And the memories you can start making TODAY are priceless. IMHO

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby Wingsconsin » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:51 am

bjatwood wrote:Your son is going to pay you back "The Bank of Mom" right? Ask him if he wants to pay back the difference between you and the seller. If he says yes then your not out anything I believe. And the memories you can start making TODAY are priceless. IMHO


All good things...
But he DOES have a NICE 1980 GL1100 Interstate that we just finished renewing..
It is PERFECT (and for sale).. He can and will ride that with me anywhere..
Cruise control and a really good CB would be an upgrade , but at what cost..?
IF we wait a little while -- maybe a better later model 1500 will come along ( I am certain) and he/we will have more cash in the bank in the motorcycle fund....
AT MY price -- the '89 makes sense -- at his...? Maybe I am just being too stubborn... but I can afford to be that way...
We do not NEED to buy a new Goldwing....we just are thinking it would be fun...
All the kind words and encouragement are really nice...
And perhaps the seller will see things MY WAY in the near future when he has no other buyers show up...
I will try to wait him out... ;)

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby redial » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:48 am

That GL1100 looks lousy - lousy colour, and glossy :twisted: How much you asking for it. You can PM if you like to keep it a secret that you want to sell the GL1100. My cousin is looking for GW, and is in no hurry.
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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby Wingsconsin » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:51 am

redial wrote:That GL1100 looks lousy - lousy colour, and glossy :twisted: How much you asking for it. You can PM if you like to keep it a secret that you want to sell the GL1100. My cousin is looking for GW, and is in no hurry.


Asking $2300 . That does not include the J & M Handlebar CB System (but that is negotiable) nor the GPS hookups (moving to next bike)

Since we got it last August -- here is the checklist of whats been done
R & R -
All fluids - brake, radiator, forks, engine, final drive
Adjust valves to proper tolerances
Rebuild to new all brake calipers & master cylinders
New brake pads - Vacuum bled lines
SS brake lines -
New Tires Dunlop D404's
New Padded leather grips
New Throttle Lock
Rebuilt Carbs - New jets & Idle Adjustment screws - Vacuum Synch
New Fuse Box - upgrade to modern blade fuse
R & R starter system
New Battery
Replaced 5 pin final drive flange with one of only 13,900 miles
Travelcade Custom touring seat and backrest

Other nice additions -
Polished chrome & paint is Custom color Cobalt Blue over Gold (pinstripes are paint!)
Powder coated downtubes & carb tops
Progressive suspension front & rear
Hyper lights brake lights
Running lights converted to LEDs
3 yellow wire fix is done - Stator charges 14.4 at almost all speeds (idles at 13.9 - 14.1)
55 watt Driving Lights
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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:12 am

All that for that price :o
My word.all your upgrades added another grand.
Personally down here that would fetch $3800

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Re: Why NOT a 1989 GL1500 ...?

Postby Wingsconsin » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:17 am

virgilmobile wrote:All that for that price :o
My word.all your upgrades added another grand.
Personally down here that would fetch $3800


Come and get it...Bring $2300 and I'll buy lunch...
You can resell it for a profit..... ;)
We have had 3 lookers in the past week... only 1 who seems serious right now...
IF we sell this bike - I will buy the '89 (if its still available) without question..
But we need the cash to be able to do it....



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