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That was scary!

Postby tflanders » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:10 am



I was riding home from my doctors appointment last Friday. It was beautiful out. I was going around an S curve with water on both sides. I pushed myself back in my seat by using my handle bars and highway boards. My right highway board snapped off completely! My foot hit the ground, luckily it was barley or it might of flipped me off the bike! I knew when I put those boards on and secured them with the hose clamps they provided, it wasn't right. I wrote the company I bought them from and they want me to send in the remaining board and they will see what they can do for me. Anyone else ever have this happen? It could of been a lot worse, thank God it wasn't!



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Re: That was scary!

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:04 am

A hose clamp.??? :o

I would never expect that to be able to support my full panic stomping weight...
Regardless of how they suggest mounting them,if i want security,I drill and bolt them on.
Even my cast clamp mounts are double secured with a secure bolt through the crash bar....

Good luck....It sounds like they were for dress up,not function....

I'd like to see a picture of them and who sold them to you.....

This is what I use...I can stand on them...They will bend the crash bar mount before breaking off.

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Re: That was scary!

Postby tflanders » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:14 am

Now those are nice and the way I would expect them to be! Mine are from Drag Specialties and are called Wingleader Cruise Boards. I bought them from Dennis Kirk. They replied to my email within an hour and told me to ship the one back and they would see what they can do. Dennis Kirk has always been very good to deal with, so I am expecting them to send me another set at no charge. I will have to figure out how to mount them safely this time. I knew better, I knew hose clamps aren't made for that application, but I trusted they did their testing and it would be safe. I will take pictures of the one that is mounted and post them on the board in a little while. I sure do like the boards you have, those are real nice and look safe!

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Re: That was scary!

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:26 am

Actually they are secure out of the box.They used a set screw in the bottom to keep them from rotating.I had to position the right one 1" further back to get the distance from the seat the same as the right.Remember the crash bars are off set due to the off set engine heads.
I also removed the set screw and drilled a hole into the crash bar bottom and used a bolt threaded up through the whole assembly.It does not come out the top of the casting but does go from the bottom,through the crash bar and back into the upper part of the clamp.
You can rest the entire bike on these without them twisting around.
Post a picture.Im sure someone can figure a way to get them secured.

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Re: That was scary!

Postby rottiman » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:44 pm

virgilmobile what brand are those boards and where did you get them from?

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Re: That was scary!

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:46 am

Mine were online used.Check wingstuff.com
Some of there's are just as beefy.
Mine may not be in production any more but a eBay search might help.Or even amazon
Either way,they were not out of the box ready.I still modified them to suit my specs.

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Re: That was scary!

Postby dingdong » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:46 am

I just have to chime in here. No hwy boards are going to support a riders weight if used as suggested. Any board that is just "clamped" on to a single bar will shift with that much weight applied. This applies to the type of clamp in the pic from Virgil. This isn't a design flaw. They aren't designed for that purpose. They are for supporting the weight of your foot only. Virgil suggests using a bolt through the crash bar. Yes that might do the trick if you plan on applying that much weight again. I for one wouldn't even trust that. Too dangerous! You were very lucky. I don't mean to be contrary with this, just cautious.
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Re: That was scary!

Postby themainviking » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:56 am

Kuryakyn makes a board and mount that looks a lot like what Virgilmobile has shown. Kuryakyn, though, has an extension on the mount that goes under the engine head, and does not allow downward rotation of the mount. You can, indeed, stand on the Kuryakyn boards with the mount they have. It does not feel sturdy enough to do it all day long, but is definitely sturdy enough to push yourself back in your seat if you wished to do so. They can be found most places, like Wing Stuff, and Cyclemax, and Dennis Kirk. The mounts are shown here:

http://www.kuryakyn.com/Products/304/Er ... -II-Update

The Drag Specialties Wingleader Cruise boards in question can be seen here:

https://www.denniskirk.com/drag-special ... 613486.sku

I do not like that mounting system at all.......
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Re: That was scary!

Postby dingdong » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:36 am

Those DS boards are the same boards I have on my 1500. They were on when I bought the bike. I really don't like the mounting clamps either but they have worked for around 35k miles with no problems. I would change them but I can't justify spending that much money when these serve their purpose.
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Re: That was scary!

Postby Big Blue UK » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:33 am

Look like they are held on with a hose clip and a screw, not surprised the mount snapped, suppose they do what they were designed to do, hold the weight of a leg and no more.
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Re: That was scary!

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:51 am

I didn't intend to imply that there was a design flaw in any product offered for foot rests.
It all relies on the needs and expectations of the end user.
I picked the ones I got because I knew I could modify to fit my specs.
Yes,they are not intended for what I expect in stability so modify I will.
They were adaptable.Some other designes wouldn't support the torque I planed for them.
My foot rests have the large beefy clamp and a tiny set screw to keep it from rotating.This was the mod site.Replace the set screw with a grade #8 10mm bolt .Its shear is 10k psi.
I'll end up bending the crash bar before that thing twists around or falls off.

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Re: That was scary!

Postby themainviking » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:38 pm

virgilmobile wrote:I'll end up bending the crash bar before that thing twists around or falls off.


I liked your results. Your mounting system is the most secure possible under the circumstances. I don't know if Kuryakyn's new Ergo II mounts are even available for other than GL1800s, so perhaps your mod is the only way to ensure a secure mount. Regardless, a bolt with the shear strength of a 10mm thickness of mild steel is definitely secure enough for someone's feet. Nice mod Virgil.
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Re: That was scary!

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:36 pm

The reason for the 'hose clamp' design is clearance from the bar to the frame.
Mine are mounted way near the front with the large clamp where there's room and the mount angles back the foot rest.
If I absolutely had to use those foot rests,I'd loose the clamps,make a curved spacer to match the bar and bolt the support right through the bar.
****Only as a last ditch effort and even then won't give much more support as there appears only about a 3/4" contact area with the bar.Heavy leverage is still gonna bend something.
Drilling a 1/4" hole in the upper and lower bar isn't my first choice either.It's forever there.

Sometimes you really need a 3 pound mall rather than the 8 ounce hammer. :lol:

I'd be more tempted to E-Bay them and get what I want.
Just me of course...other opinions apply,batteries not included. :)




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