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headlights

Postby Maddogg » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:05 am



I want to change my GL 1500 headlight bulbs over to HID. Don't know if this is a good idea as I don't know how much extra power they draw. I keep hearing that they project a lot of light. I was looking on sites to find the OEM number so that I could cross it over to another source but I can't find the number for the bulbs. The sites will give you THeir part number but not OEM. Does anyone know the OEM number and is this a good idea. I don't want to have to modify my whole front end, I am looking for bulbs that will plug right in.



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Re: headlights

Postby robb » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:01 am

Or you can go down to local parts store and get Sylvania Silverstar bulbs. Quick replacement and lots more light.

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Re: headlights

Postby Maddogg » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:15 am

hey Robb. Do they plug in just like regular lights? I have a 1990 Gl 1500. I don't know if they changed the way they plug in like they did the cars.

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Re: headlights

Postby Sempai » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:19 am

I'm sorry to inform you that the HID bulbs will require you to incorporate a module that is akin to the ballast resistors and starters you'd find in a neon lamp fixture. They will not plug directly into your bike without modifying the wiring. Go to any auto parts store and try the Sylvanias mentioned a coupla posts up...they are brighter and are also a direct replacement with NO MODS to your GWing.........and they are WAY CHEAPER than buying the Honda bulbs.
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Re: headlights

Postby Sempai » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:21 am

Maddogg wrote:hey Robb. Do they plug in just like regular lights? I have a 1990 Gl 1500. I don't know if they changed the way they plug in like they did the cars.

They are quite similar, disconnect the plug, remove the rubber booty, release the spring wire keeper, and out she comes. Take a bulb with you to the parts store.
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Re: headlights

Postby ct1500 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:29 am

Bulb numbers are a 9003/HB2/HB4 which are 60/55W instead of OEM 45/45W.
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Re: headlights

Postby Maddogg » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:31 am

Thanks guys. I wanted to make sure someone had the bulb before I tore the bike down that far. I have tried to cross it over, but the auto parts stores only have literature for auto's not bikes.

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Re: headlights

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:39 am

Maddogg wrote:I want to change my GL 1500 headlight bulbs over to HID. Don't know if this is a good idea as I don't know how much extra power they draw. I keep hearing that they project a lot of light. I was looking on sites to find the OEM number so that I could cross it over to another source but I can't find the number for the bulbs. The sites will give you THeir part number but not OEM. Does anyone know the OEM number and is this a good idea. I don't want to have to modify my whole front end, I am looking for bulbs that will plug right in.


Despite the fact that HIDs put out almost three times the light as regular halogen lights, they actually draw much less power - a little more than half the power. I put a set of GoldwingHIDs lights specifically meant for my GL1500, and come with plug-and-play connectors so that it just plugs right in. They work amazingly well - I'm very pleased with them, and definitely would not go back. If you're not happy with them, because they just plug in, you could easily unplug them and go back to the original halogen lights.

Here's a video on installing them: Install HID lights on your GL1500 (Video)

Here's the GoldwingHIDs that I installed: GL1500 35 Watt HID Headlight Kit

And here's a review on the GoldwingHIDs that I wrote: GoldwingHID HID headlight kit

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Re: headlights

Postby Happytrails » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:16 pm

I just picked up a set of EiKC 60w/55w bulbs thru Cyclemax. If they are nice and bright I guess I bought a modulator for nothin.
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Re: headlights

Postby Sempai » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:23 pm

Happytrails wrote:I just picked up a set of EiKC 60w/55w bulbs thru Cyclemax. If they are nice and bright I guess I bought a modulator for nothin.

If you bought a headlight modulator for your motorcycle, it probably has nothing to do with how bright the lights are...most likely, it just constantly flashes the high beams during daylight operation.
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Re: headlights

Postby Maddogg » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:44 pm

Just went to cyclemax website, punched in the description for that bulb and there were no matches. Happytrails, could you tell me which section you found them in?

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Re: headlights

Postby mnet7291 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:04 pm

I pur the same ones that Admin put in about 2 weeks ago, it is plug an play, very simple an everything that you need is in the kit, an yes it would be very easy to change back if you want, I have a 1990,1500 an man they do make a big difference.

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Re: headlights

Postby Happytrails » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:58 pm

Maddogg wrote:Just went to cyclemax website, punched in the description for that bulb and there were no matches. Happytrails, could you tell me which section you found them in?


Your right I dont see them either. From what people tell me Gary is very good at keeping in stock items listed and I guess he removes out of stock items quickly too. My guess is if you email Gary and Betty they could tell you if they are getting more in soon. The price was $7 per bulb and they are supposed to be direct replacement with no shims. I haven't put them in yet. Still working on my final drive and bleeding rear brakes.

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Re: headlights

Postby Happytrails » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:01 pm

Sempai wrote:
Happytrails wrote:I just picked up a set of EiKC 60w/55w bulbs thru Cyclemax. If they are nice and bright I guess I bought a modulator for nothin.

If you bought a headlight modulator for your motorcycle, it probably has nothing to do with how bright the lights are...most likely, it just constantly flashes the high beams during daylight operation.


I wish I had thought ahead. I didn't think I wanted to go HID's so I thought I'd just add a headlight modulator and run the OEM headlights. Then I discovered the 60w/55w ones on Cyclemax and seemed like a great idea. Now I'm thinkin that if the lights are that much brighter that I might not even need the modulator. I dunno. Its about being seen right?
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Re: headlights

Postby JMMO » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:58 pm

Hey maddogg, I switched to HIDs last summer, and I'm very happy with them. I was going to go with a modulator, but when weighing the benefits of each system, I decided that the HIDs made me more visible to cagers plus the added benefit of better night vision, much better :D . I commute to work at 4am, thus night vision is very important to me. This is where I got my set. Made for the 1500. http://www.socalmotogear.com/category_s/33.htm
:shock: Remember if you go with the HIDs you can't use a modulator. :)
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Re: headlights

Postby silverado6x6 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:40 am

I changed out my stock lamps on the 95 to a pair of 55 watt 6000K bi xenon HID lamps, the kit comes with everything, including the adapter plug so you have a high and low beam, that is critical because most HID kits fail to provide that cable. basically it just activates a magnet on each capsule that changes the beam pattern. It has a very small plug to connect to your existing harness and then to the capsules.
Yes I posted 55 watt, not the standardized 35 watt kits on Ebay. I chose 6000K color so as to gain a UV shift that makes moose eyes glow, you can get a more whiter look by getting lamps in the 4300-5000K color.
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Re: headlights

Postby tmilam » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:54 am

Happytrails wrote:
Sempai wrote:
Happytrails wrote:I just picked up a set of EiKC 60w/55w bulbs thru Cyclemax. If they are nice and bright I guess I bought a modulator for nothin.

If you bought a headlight modulator for your motorcycle, it probably has nothing to do with how bright the lights are...most likely, it just constantly flashes the high beams during daylight operation.


I wish I had thought ahead. I didn't think I wanted to go HID's so I thought I'd just add a headlight modulator and run the OEM headlights. Then I discovered the 60w/55w ones on Cyclemax and seemed like a great idea. Now I'm thinkin that if the lights are that much brighter that I might not even need the modulator. I dunno. Its about being seen right?

Happytrails....I run the 60/55s with a modulator. works great

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Re: headlights

Postby liquineer » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:43 am

Those bulbs from Cyclemax are still there- under GL1500, Lights and they are P6260HD replacement H4 bulbs. Just checked.
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Re: headlights

Postby oilboy1162 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:47 am

I also went HID (standard 35w white) and could'nt be happier. the install was a snap, and WOW what a difference!
:lol: I know people say we spend too much money on our rides, but I can't hear them when I'm 1000 miles away! :roll:

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Re: headlights

Postby silverado6x6 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:41 am

Something I thought I should add here, you CANNOT use a modulator on HID capsules, on a halogen YES, LED, NO.

However a person "could" use a 55 watt HID HID on one side say the RH headlight and a halogen on the left, rig a switch or install a photocell, some modulator kits have that option so they will not modulate at night, use the halogen on a modulator during the day, use the 55 watt HID on the right at night, beauty is the single HID 55 watt will far surpass even a dual stock halogen light, and you still have the LH halogen as backup.
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Re: headlights

Postby Maddogg » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:14 pm

Do I need a modulator to run those bulbs oilboy

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Re: headlights

Postby Happytrails » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:57 pm

No a modulator is something else. But there are other parts to an HID kit. They usually come with the harnesses and ballasts included. And I've heard commented that having a highbeam HID is self defeating since they need a little time to come to full brightness?
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Re: headlights

Postby Happytrails » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:59 pm

silverado6x6 wrote:However a person "could" use a 55 watt HID HID on one side say the RH headlight and a halogen on the left, rig a switch or install a photocell, some modulator kits have that option so they will not modulate at night, use the halogen on a modulator during the day, use the 55 watt HID on the right at night, beauty is the single HID 55 watt will far surpass even a dual stock halogen light, and you still have the LH halogen as backup.


I like this idea but how does that work? I mean when I have my lowbeams on both lights are on. When I got to highbeams both lights are on. So halogens project in a pattern and thats what gives you the highbeam/lowbeam? I just dont understand how you could have a HID lowbeam and halogen highbeam.
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Re: headlights

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:22 pm

silverado6x6 wrote:Something I thought I should add here, you CANNOT use a modulator on HID capsules, on a halogen YES, LED, NO.

However a person "could" use a 55 watt HID HID on one side say the RH headlight and a halogen on the left, rig a switch or install a photocell, some modulator kits have that option so they will not modulate at night, use the halogen on a modulator during the day, use the 55 watt HID on the right at night, beauty is the single HID 55 watt will far surpass even a dual stock halogen light, and you still have the LH halogen as backup.


You can use a modulator on an LED. Kisan sells a unit specifically designed to work with LED headlights. If you are industrious, you can modify an existing unit with a resistor and it will then work with LEDs just fine. I did this myself.

Also, every modulator that is legally sold MUST have a light sensor that automatically turns the modulator off after dark. That is stated specifically in the federal regulation that allows modulators. Without that sensor, it is illegal to have the modulator on your bike.

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Re: headlights

Postby silverado6x6 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:06 pm

Detailed electrical mods are my specialty, years ago I built custom electrical projects for award winning show cars. Whole car wiring and extras.
Just split your left and right grounds with relays and some small rocker switches, after I installed white 7 watt projector position lights they themselves appear as daytime headlights, the dual headlights don't both have to on at the same time,or on during daylight hours especially if a person has used 35 or 55watt HID in at least one side, and HID do fail, and getting another capsule or ballast isn't as easy as going to a NAPA store, so having one side a quality H4 halogen could be a viable safe option.

The Bi-xenon H4 lamps do travel from low to high beam, they do it by moving the lamp in and out by a magnetic solenoid, that changes the beam height, most people think you cannot get a hi/lo from HID, that is a false assumption, the may flicker but it stays on so you are NOT waiting for the high beam to get full brightness, its already on, it just moves the beam up or down.


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