Progressive 416's


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Progressive 416's

Postby rottiman » Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:44 pm



Time to update the rear shocks on my 88. Ordered a set of 416's. Any body have any experience with these as a replacement for tired stock shocks? We do alot of 2 up and will also be adding a trailer this coming year. I've used them in the past on a couple of "Hardly Ablesons" I have owned over the years, and they worked well on them. Any input is appreciated. :)



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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby cbx4evr » Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:59 pm

When I need replacements those will be my choice too.
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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby trike lady » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:26 pm

I had them on my 1500 and it was a big improvement over the worn out ones, the Voyager unit always stayed in adjustment and the ride quality was excellent. Two air shocks instead of one. :mrgreen:
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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:41 pm

I put them on my bike a couple years ago. Great improvement over the tired spring in the old shocks, the bike sits up higher in back, and the front end becomes a bit more responsive as a result (altered suspension geometry).

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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby peppilepew » Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:46 pm

Just put them on my 1500 before I replaced her. :( I liked them very much. Better cornering at speed.

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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby Maddogg » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:19 pm

trike lady wrote:I had them on my 1500 and it was a big improvement over the worn out ones, the Voyager unit always stayed in adjustment and the ride quality was excellent. Two air shocks instead of one. :mrgreen:

What do you mean, two air shocks instead of one. The GL 1500 has an air shock on each side doesn't it?

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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby Maddogg » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:53 pm

Do the springs come installed on these shocks? I saw some online that had the spring pictured outside the shock. If the spring does not come installed, is it hard to install? I have never attempted this before. Maxridinggear.com had them for $291.41 I have progressive shocks on my VS 800 Intruder and I like the ride better than the stock shocks. Does it soften the ride that much on the GL 1500? :shock:

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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby peppilepew » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:13 pm

Maddogg wrote:Do the springs come installed on these shocks? I saw some online that had the spring pictured outside the shock. If the spring does not come installed, is it hard to install? I have never attempted this before. Maxridinggear.com had them for $291.41 I have progressive shocks on my VS 800 Intruder and I like the ride better than the stock shocks. Does it soften the ride that much on the GL 1500? :shock:


They are plug and play. Come full of oil and with all the hose/fittings you need. No external spring. All is done from inside sealed unit. Firms the ride. That is what you want.

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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby Dogsled » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:08 pm

Maddogg wrote:What do you mean, two air shocks instead of one. The GL 1500 has an air shock on each side doesn't it?


one air shock
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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby Dusty Boots » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:32 am

Stock set up on a 1500 is a coil over shock on one side and an air bag on the other (no damping, or spring - just an airbag)

With the Progressive 416s you get 2 shocks, both with internal spring, air and damping fluid.
Ride is firmer/more controlled, giving better cornering/handling performance and greater amount of shock pressurization (60 PSI vs 100 PSI) for increased 'load control'.

If purchasing/installing the 416s, make sure you keep them upright so none of the fluid spills out of the air line opening :o and you might as well dry out the desiccant in the air pump. ;)

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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby rottiman » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:18 pm

Dusty Boots wrote:Stock set up on a 1500 is a coil over shock on one side and an air bag on the other (no damping, or spring - just an airbag)

With the Progressive 416s you get 2 shocks, both with internal spring, air and damping fluid.
Ride is firmer/more controlled, giving better cornering/handling performance and greater amount of shock pressurization (60 PSI vs 100 PSI) for increased 'load control'.

If purchasing/installing the 416s, make sure you keep them upright so none of the fluid spills out of the air line opening :o and you might as well dry out the desiccant in the air pump. ;)

Thanks Dusty, will definitely make sure I do the dry-out.

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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:34 am

Maddogg wrote:What do you mean, two air shocks instead of one. The GL 1500 has an air shock on each side doesn't it?


No, one side is a non-air spring shock, and the other side is an air shock with no spring. Progressive replaces these with two spring shocks both with air support.

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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby Mooseman » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:38 pm

I have acquired a set of 416's 13 inches in length. They are used but appear to be in great condition. They came with air lines attached and a T fitting. I have not seen any oil leaking out, so am guessing maybe this needs to be checked? Can this be done with out pulling the main seal out? Or should they be sent to progressive and have them gone thru? They will be going on the 96 SE.
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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby wingpilot08 » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:43 am

Just replaced my old worn shocks with the 416's and loving the difference! Hardest part of the change out was pulling off all the tupperware, replacing the shocks was a breeze. Just be careful where you run the air lines...don't let them get pinched and if possible secure the lines with tie wraps.
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Re: Progressive 416's

Postby Dogsled » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:19 am

Just pulled off a major change with the 412's I bought. I hate them, you can't adjust the ride height. I ride solo so i'm switched to a 412 on one side and removed the spring on the other side. I like my bike bike slammed down as low as it can go. I was bottoming out so I set the 412 with the spring in it to the heavy tension and it is nice. I still would like to get a stock air shock (if anyone has a good one for sale) and put it on where the solo shock unit is and experiment a bit.

I'm scrapin pegs around every sharp turn and lovin it.... :D

I put it through alot of paces, twisties/freeway high speed and city streets and so far it's handling great. Only time will tell how strong these shocks are with this setup.

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