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Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby bstig60 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:27 am



I have an 88 1500 and I find the choice of rear tires is limited in the factory recommended size. Has anyone tried a larger size rear tire? No car tires, please.........


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Re: Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby tmilam » Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:54 am

As far as I know, you can't go any wider. When you take it off, it barely squeezes between the final drive and the swing-arm now.

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Postby bstig60 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:19 pm

There seems to be very little choice available in the rear tire. I had planned on trying Kenda Kruz for the next go around, but have read some negatives about them on Steve Saunders site. I currently have a Venom radial on the front and a Venom Arrow on the rear. The Arrow only has about 7000 miles on it and is nearing the wear bars in the center. I would like to put another radial on the rear, but there isn't much available in the size. I really don't want to change the front yet, since it has probably got another 15K miles left in it.
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Re: Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby tmilam » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:31 pm

The Kenda is crap. Have seen 2 loose blocks of center tread around the 5000 mile mark. The reason you can't find Radials in the GL1500 sizes is because it is supposed to have Bias Ply tires. I have had really good luck with the Dunlop K177's on my 89 GL1500.

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Re: Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby cbx4evr » Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:03 pm

tmilam wrote:I have had really good luck with the Dunlop K177's on my 89 GL1500.


I've looked at those but so far haven't tried them. I realize they were the OEM tire back in the day.

I've found the K177 to be the most expensive of the options out there so I've settled on the Avon Venom. Coincidentally of the three tire models I considered before getting the Venom's the K177 had the lowest load rating at 853# for rear and the Venom at 1019#.
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Re: Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:13 pm

I just replaced my Avon Venoms with a new set of Avon Venoms. I got 12,000 miles out of the old set.

The rear Venom is a touch wider than OEM, and I have to deflate it to install or uninstall it.

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Postby ct1500 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:21 pm

Whatever tire you decide on make sure it meets the load rating which can be found on the sticker inside of trunk. Or you will be an unhappy camper with a premature worn tire.
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Re: Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby bstig60 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:37 pm

Thanks, specs are 75H for the rear, I believe. Interesting that some are getting 25K plus miles out of rear tires and others only 12K. Since I am going to get 10 plus out of the Avon Arro ll I have on the rear, I am temped to go with that again as my front tire, an Avon Venom R hardly shows any wear. The ride has been good with the radials.,
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Postby ct1500 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:25 pm

My front E3 lasted 25k and the rear has 25k now with another 3k maybe. Dusty Boots from the forum pushes them even farther.
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Re: Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby gordonv » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:22 pm

Austone Taxi tire

https://www.universaltire.com/175r16-au ... black.html

I believe this is the correct one for our GW. I need to confirm this is the correct one (size). This is the CT I'm going to put onto my spare rim and mount on my 88' the next time it needs a new rear tire.

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Re: Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby Uncle Fester » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:46 pm

Slight hijack of the thread, sorry, but is it safe to assume those getting 25k from their tires are using balance beads or centramatic balancers ?
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Postby gordonv » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:40 pm

Not at all. From most threads I've read from others, mostly on the Valkyries, every tire is different, and every rider gets different mileage out of their rubber. Even the same manufactures and the same model. Some are a vast difference, like 12K - 25K, and some are just a few 1000s Km.

Dynamic weights, or static, doesn't seem to make much difference, except on bounce/wobble and cupping.

When you get 10-13K from a MC tire, costing $200+, this is why I'm wanting to try out a car tire (CT) for myself. Since the OP also asked about a CT, I posted what I see has the best profile, most rounded, so should make the transition a lot nicer.

I had a tire mounted on a spare Valk rim, then had an accident before swapping it out. Mounted a CT on my spare VT1100T rim, and gave the bike to my brother, and he replaced the warn rubber with another MC tire. Now I have a 88' GW, spare rims, and am going to need a tire in 2-3 years, so will keep my eyes open on tires for it, and get one I hope at a good price, and swap it out while I still have unable tread left on my GW, just incase I don't like it. Maybe even jump on sooner, and mount it about a month before my long trip around Father's Day,

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Re: Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby bstig60 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:45 pm

bstig60 wrote:I have an 88 1500 and I find the choice of rear tires is limited in the factory recommended size. Has anyone tried a larger size rear tire? No car tires, please.........

I am interested in MC tires only, not car tires. Unless you ride in a straight line, IMHO, you are taking your life and the lives of others into your hands by running a tire not made for a bike. Granted, I am looking for opinions here as to what tires give the best service.
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Postby ct1500 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:22 am

Uncle Fester wrote:Slight hijack of the thread, sorry, but is it safe to assume those getting 25k from their tires are using balance beads or centramatic balancers ?


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Postby redial » Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:11 pm

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Is it hard to stay ahead of the 'lead' when it is dispatched to you? I know some of you Northerners are happy about guns, but does it make a difference with your tyres?

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Re: Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby dingdong » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:04 am

I have Avon Venoms on my 1500. They have 6k miles and to the eye they show no wear or cupping what so ever. Previous 3 sets were E3s and I also could get 25k miles from them. The last set I pulled early at 16k miles because I couldn't stand the noise and vibration, from the cupping, any longer. Love the Venoms, even if I may not get the same mileage. I will never use E3s again.
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Postby silverado6x6 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:06 pm

Any other Ct brands of the right size for the rear of the 1500? I have a 95 with a rear Elite 3 on it.
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Re: Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby Dusty Boots » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:05 pm

tmilam wrote: I have had really good luck with the Dunlop K177's on my 89 GL1500.


While the rear Dunlop K177 is not a bad tire (good alternative to the E3 - not noisy, but a lower load capacity)
I found the front K177 on the other hand to handle like crap, probably due to it's tread design, which is more rib like than most other newer designed tires. Wanted to follow every little groove/tar snake etc, even when inflated to 41 PS!! One was on the bike when I bought it and the other one I had to have installed a number of years later as that was the only tire the dealer had that would fit, :( while I was on a road trip. Soon as I got home about 3 weeks later, I yanked it off even though it only had 7,000 miles on it and installed a new E3 I had waiting for me and continue to run them (E3s) up front. Never again with the K177 up front!!! :evil:

I have gotten close to 30,000 mi on a rear E3, but was down past the wear bars at that point. Yes, the rears do cup and get noisy. Front E3 rarely cup on me and I regularly get 23,000+ mi on the fronts.

I have since switched to trying out CTs and although I did not like the Federal Fomoza 175/60-16 the Austone Taxi tire is a different tire altogether (6 ply)
My 1st Austone returned a quieter ride with better grip, load capacity and 42,000 mi when it approached the wear bars .... so I ordered another one and installed it.

So far, I have logged in excess of 89,053 miles on a CT ... 67,000 of them on the Austones and most likely won't return to a MC tire on the rear.







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Postby Wingsconsin » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:56 am

Another one of those car tires that can only travel in a straight line...this one in the rain..

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Postby silverado6x6 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:45 pm

My roads in Alaska in many places are really terrible,lots of tar snakes and frost heaves, a frost heave is where water has gotten under the pavement, freezes and expands pushing up and breaking the pavement, happens every season up here, its very hard to keep even the most recently built improved roads from having frost heaves, at the military base they have to pur the concrete over 6 feet thick to make it immune from frost heaves, impractical to say the least for highways.

And then because about everyone up here also uses studded tires for 4-6 months our roads after a year or two look like a pair of irrigation ditches when it rains, sure you can ride in snot patch in the middle but you constantly get pulled into one rut or the other....imagine what its like when it rains. The road then has a pair of irrigation ditches, with water approaching 2 or more inches deep during a strong rain, very dangerous for a bike, you really do not see this effect much in the lower 48.

With that in mind the constant possible breaks in the roadway and then each tire path flooding with water its all the reasons for a "touring bike" loaded with gear, two up and or with a trailer to have a much better tire than "traditional" designs, and we just do...not...have... it...yet. Period.

Until then I will take a leap of faith and will get a CT as soon as I can, maybe two. But just for my Goldwing, the more sportier bikes will stay as they are for now, btw I am basically a straight up rider anyway, at least on the Wing anyway, and where is the best darkside websites?
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Re: Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby Uncle Fester » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:09 am

I know about "frost heaves" too well for my liking, I hit one on a small highway in Wyoming that was large enough to launch my bike about 2' up and 6' forward. . . On a 1989 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300. That was a ride and a half ! Lol
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Postby silverado6x6 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:21 pm

OUCH! I destroyed a brand new Dunlop on my 2009 Star XVS1300 Tourer in less than 20 miles after I bought it up here, switched to Metzelers on that bike. Yeah I have an 89 Venture Royale myself, to me I like riding it more so than a Wing, sorry to have to admit that on a Goldwing forum, but its not quite what a Goldwing does so very well. I have Shinko 230 Tourmasters on that Venture. I would have to say I like that big engine hump from the V4, I can get my size 12 boots to the shifter easier and the seat are more of a pocket wheras the Wing feels more like a bench, when my lady friend is on the back she sits tight up against me, on the Wing she has more of a distance as she has more seat room. Goldwing has a longer seat pan I believe.

I wish Tire rack had that Austone Taxi tire, they do have the Goodyear Assurance though.
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To find what is close to your tire size
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Postby bstig60 » Tue May 06, 2014 10:32 am

Has anyone tried the Shinko 890 radial on the rear of a 1500?
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Re: Rear Tire Size. What sizes will fit?

Postby Wingsconsin » Tue May 06, 2014 1:10 pm

bstig60 wrote:Has anyone tried the Shinko 890 radial on the rear of a 1500?


I had an interesting chat online with a Shinko tire representative - Here is the text from that chat
His responses are in RED

SE890 JOURNEY TOURING
STREET / CRUISER TIRE
Designed for larger touring bikes and cruisers, The SE890 Journey touring radial features a versatile all-weather tread pattern.
• Econmically priced without sacrificing quality
• Excellent ride and load carrying capabilities
• Aramid belted radial construction
• Tread compound designed for optimal grip and good mileage
• Available in sizes for the Honda Valkyrie, and Honda GL1500 and GL1800 Gold Wing models

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According to your website (excerpted above) these tires are approved for use on a GL1500 Goldwing motorcycle. The GL1500 normally uses BIAS ply tires? However This tire is a Radial ? Are you really advertising this tire for the GL1500 or is this a mistake. Please advise as I am considering this for my 1996 GL1500 Aspencade

We say we have fitment for the GL1500. That means we manufacture the size of tire that originally came on that machine. We understand that the 15 came with bias ply and we leave the decision up to the customer whether or not to change to a radial. What I can say is that many people have used these on their GL1500’s and absolutely loved them! Even though the machine was designed for bias ply tires it doesn’t mean you CAN’T put radials on. A radial tire is more performance minded and is more flexible than a bias. So if your machine was designed with bias ply you just have to make modifications to accept the radial such as stiffening up the suspension. I hope this info helps and if you’d like please feel free to give me a call and I can help further explain this. .

Currently my GL1500 has stiffer than OEM suspension. As you may know the Goldwing GL1500 had softer suspension as OEM designed to make them absorbs bumps more
MY Wing has Progressive Front Springs and the Progressive 450 IAS shock on the rear combined with the air assisted OEM shock I can run it stone stiff or plush as I see fit.
So if I had these Journey SE890 tires I would stiffen the suspension to match the softness of the radial tires...?
What is the load rating of the SE890's - I missed that on the website.

Awesome! Those Progressive shocks make all the difference in the world! Yes, stiffen the suspension slightly to accommodate the radials.
Load ratings are as follows: Front load index 63 or 600lbs and rear load index 81 or 1019lbs, so combined weight of 1619 lbs


This has been an enlightening conversation and exchange thus far and I appreciate your time.
Do you have any field reports on tire longevity on the Goldwing? Approx expected miles before replacement?
I know conditions change bike to bike and all, however when I could get the Michelin Pilot GTs (which were the best tire I ever used on my GL1500) I averaged 16,500 miles per set over 4 sets I used...
My buddy & I have been trying different tires since them to find an acceptable mix of performance and longevity.
Bridgestones handle well, but burn up in under 10K
Avon Venoms last , but are too hard
Dunlop EIIIs last but slip a bit and are noisy.

I have used Shinko on a GS650 I restored this past year and liked them (Tourmaster 230's). But I sold the bike before I put any miles on them (about 300 total) .

Your thoughts please ?

Yes mileage is a tough one. What I can say is that on average I hear reports of anywhere from 8-12k. I’ve also heard of people wearing them out in 6 and cases that have lasted as long as 22,000. Most important thing about tire longevity is tire pressure. Shinko tires are designed to be run at no less than 4-5lbs below max air pressure and if run lower than that they can wear twice as fast as they should.

end of chat

**Notice the front tire weight rating is WRONG - He looked up the wrong size as we chatted.. I think the front tire weight rating is much higher than the indicated number...


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