LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA


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LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby ianmcoutback » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:48 pm



I have an Imported 1994 GL1500 SE from the states to AUSTRALIA i bought it here in SYDNEY. The problem i have is after about one year i have gone through three batterys and i cannot find the problem the aulternater is putting out 14 Plus volts but still the battery over time runs down. As best i can tell because all the lights are on and on a hot day the fans are going full on most of the time and in a lot of stop start traffic the battery runs down over time. does any one no if getting rid of the 40 amp alternater and putting in a 90 amp one will fix the problem. Or better still can anyone suggest anything that might help.

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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby cbx4evr » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:02 pm

Have you got any other added electrical load like lights etc?
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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby ianmcoutback » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:16 pm

No the bike is completley stock it does have a hitch on it and is wired up i will be having a closer look at that on weekend.
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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby Sempai » Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:39 am

How old is the battery? Most bat manufacturers have some kinda date on their lable. Have a look to see if perhaps the critter has outlived its life?
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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby ianmcoutback » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:20 am

No there is no label needed all three batteries were brand new. and one of the suplyers will not give me a refund on the second one after he replased the first one. And the third one was fitted buy a honda dealer and it is now fading on me.

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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby silverado6x6 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:01 am

Off hand I would take out all the fuses and using a test light see which circuit has continuity when the key is out of the ignition, you may have a fused stuck relay. Thats taking your test light and with one lead to positive, yes positive not negative stick the probe into each fuse slot, if say you have something on the current will go through the test light and light it up. One side of each fuse slot goes out to various components of the bike.

Now by chance check the polarity of the battery connection, I have a Chiltons I think manual that shows the bike as being positive ground, which I think is totally wrong. A fused relay happens when the load is so much it arcs the contacts shut like a spot welder.
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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby charliektm400exc » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:49 pm

Take it to an auto electrician, many of them will work on motorcycles.

I had a similar problem with another bike, turned out to be a corroded plug that wasn't letting the bike charge, but things were still running off the battery.

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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby silverado6x6 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:28 pm

charliektm400exc wrote:Take it to an auto electrician, many of them will work on motorcycles.

I had a similar problem with another bike, turned out to be a corroded plug that wasn't letting the bike charge, but things were still running off the battery.

I bought a 1983 Honda CX650 from a fella who kept going through batteries, he even modified the tray for a bigger one, and the bike was very hard to start, turned out it was a burnt and corroded regulator plug and a bad internal ground inside the starter, I stole that bike, they just did not search deep enough, I also doubt they went online to search for answers as well.

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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby ianmcoutback » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:23 am

Thank you very much for that Info i will be giving that a go on the weekend and will let you no the outcome thanks again for the reply.

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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby Fiberthree » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:09 am

ianmcoutback wrote:...does any one know if getting rid of the 40 amp alternater and putting in a 90 amp one will fix the problem.


That may be the best solution in the long run. Honda did have some problems with the 1500's alt. My '99 SE was doing the same thing and although the alternator showed the proper voltage, it eventually stranded me on the highway with a dead battery that was about a year old. You guessed it... a weak alternator. Since installing my Compufire I haven't had an electrical issue.
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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby ianmcoutback » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:48 am

But then tell me why its not happening to all bikes then just yours and mine, andmaybe a couple of others then.

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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby Fiberthree » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:24 pm

ianmcoutback wrote:But then tell me why its not happening to all bikes then just yours and mine, andmaybe a couple of others then.


My Wing is a 1999 and the problem didn't manifest itself untill 2004. It took three trips to the dealers, under warranty, before they correctly diagnosed the trouble and changed the alternator. I had heard rumors about the trouble but had only experienced minor problems until the two weeks before it totally went out on the highway. Even after they replaced the unit I still had some issues so, not being comfortable with possibly having the same trouble later on, I changed to the aftermarket product. There was no time frame for the problem either. Some failed faster than others and some never failed. But the confusing part was that the alternator seemed to put out the correct voltage at idle and when the engine was reved for testing. The electrical system was being augmented by the battery while driving. Symptoms made it look like weak batteries were the fault when, in fact, the battery was not being fully recharged while driving.
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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby ianmcoutback » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:25 am

Thanks for the Email i am at the moment having my Auto Electrician try to find the real reason for this problem with some new computer charger he has, and will be returning to him wednesday after Our long Weekend (AUSTRALIA DAY) and see what he comes up with and go from there i hope he finds something and can fix it or will have to change the Alternator to a 90amp or 120amp to be shore. Will let all no how it comes out next week Thanks again from ianmcoutback.

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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby ianmcoutback » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:03 am

Hi again thanks for you massage about my bikes problem with the batteries. But you suggested that it might be the alternator. having a look at the forum i notice that a lot of people are suggesting that it would be the voltage regulator fuzing out or shorting or just not plan working properly is more looking like the problem as it brakes down half way through charging the battery when traveling along and not putting out the right volts to keep the battery fully charged up so some time it really just running on the battery and that wears the battery down over time. So i will be going back to my Auto Electric on wednesday and will see what we can find out OK. PS will let you no on the forum later OK Thanks again.

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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby bjatwood » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:53 am

Take a look at the alternator charge AFTER the bike has been running say 20+ minutes. Sometimes a alternator will charge at first and then when the diode gets warm it will quit charging. Just had this happen to me with a forklift at the warehouse I manage...

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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby ianmcoutback » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:55 pm

Thanks Mate i will check it out in the morning Thanks for That.

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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby seelyark1 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:23 pm

Interesting read, but wonder what it was that cured the problem. Must have gotten it fixed by now? LOL
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Re: LOST FOR HELP GL1500 SE AUSTRALIA

Postby ianmcoutback » Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:06 am

Hi we dont really know yet my Auto Electrician has put a better battery in the bike that has bigger cranking power in it and he made shore that the battery was fully charged up so far it seems to be working OK. Its keeping the charge up all the time and it does not look like it is losing any of its power so far. So all we can do is keep a good eye on it and if things change i will let you no ok. Thank for your concern and will let you know if there is anything to report back to you in future Thanks again.




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