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gl1500 flashers

Postby traveler105 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:30 pm



ok...... I think I messed something up good..... had to try to use my flashers on the highway. they wouldn't work... turned them on and off a few times to see if maybe the switch had some dirt in it.......now sitting at idle and in neutral things work fine.. but when I put the bike in gear the turn signal indicators glow dim and the turn signals flash at about twice the speed as normal.. lights flash the same..... have I broken the switch or blown the diode in the flasher circuit.. and where are they. book says there is one on the flasher and one on the neutral switch and another in the rear somewhere.. 1992 aspencade



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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:39 am

My very first suspect is a bad ground not a switch.Too many dim lights.
Also as I recall.....Mother Honda,or whoever made the harness,decided not to run every green ground wire to a ring connector and bolt it to the frame.....On the right side,to the right of the battery,follow the harness..I don't have a picture on this computer but there is a ground block connector.
It's about 1/4" X 1 inch....It's all green wires.....I've seen a picture of one with corrosion in it.
They can be repaired .
I looked on my 88 for this.... it was hard to find as it was taped to the harness.It's outline gave it away.

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby thrasherg » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:22 am

I second Virgil, I would be looking for a bad earth, probably a wire recently broke, so now all the current is passing through another high resistance path, it will mess up everything. I would start by connecting a piece of wire to the negative terminal of the battery, then turn on your indicators and start touching parts like the rear mudguard, the frame, etc and see if any one area suddenly makes the flashers start working if it does, then you know you lost the earth to that part. You can then either find the broken wire or just run a new wire. if touching the wire to different areas has no effect, then you are in for a longer process. but try this idea first and see what happens. I would suggest touching the handle bars, touching the rear sub frame, touching the negative/earth leads coming from all of the 4 indicators, touch the earth lead on the headlight, touch the earth lead on the rear brake lights, etc.. Make sure you get a good connection on whatever you touch.

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby bustedwing » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:24 pm

My thoughts make it unanimous, and what crossed my mind before I seen the other answers. A bad ground in one area will make those objects search for ground through any way possible, so if the proper ground isn't working it will try to ground thru another path.
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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby traveler105 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:21 am

ok...... I am looking for a ground that may be bad.... only question I had with that is why it started after trying to use the flashers on the highway.... and only happens with the bike in gear. something around the neutral switch maybe...trying to narrow it down some. the turn signals work properly also as long as the bike is in neutral. that's why I was wondering about the diodes in the circuits. aren't they there to protect from reverse voltage from other circuits...going to be a long job for the winter .. thanks

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:43 pm

traveler105 wrote:ok...... I am looking for a ground that may be bad.... only question I had with that is why it started after trying to use the flashers on the highway.... and only happens with the bike in gear. something around the neutral switch maybe...trying to narrow it down some. the turn signals work properly also as long as the bike is in neutral. that's why I was wondering about the diodes in the circuits. aren't they there to protect from reverse voltage from other circuits...going to be a long job for the winter .. thanks


The neutral switch has one wire, which goes to the switch. When the bike is in neutral, the switch connects that wire to the engine case, grounding the wire and turning the neutral light on (among other things).

You have a bad ground somewhere. When in neutral, the circuits are using the neutral switch as a ground, so they operate (relatively) normally. When not in neutral, that ground disappears, so the circuits, not having their own normal ground, malfunction.

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby thrasherg » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:59 pm

On the positive side, this tells you the ground connection between the engine and the battery is good!! Now you need to check if the failed ground is to the instruments, headlight, brake light, tail lights, etc.. As I mentioned earlier get a bit of wire, connect one end to the battery negative terminal and then with the indicators on (and the bike NOT in neutral), go around touching various earth points on the bike until the flashers start working. This will give you an idea of where to look for the bad ground.

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby traveler105 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:19 pm

thanks guys.quick as it warms up even a little to where I can open the garage door..... I am in Indiana and its been well below 0 for a while with some really bad wind chills... then I will get started on it.....

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby newday777 » Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:30 am

virgilmobile wrote:My very first suspect is a bad ground not a switch.Too many dim lights.
Also as I recall.....Mother Honda,or whoever made the harness,decided not to run every green ground wire to a ring connector and bolt it to the frame.....On the right side,to the right of the battery,follow the harness..I don't have a picture on this computer but there is a ground block connector.
It's about 1/4" X 1 inch....It's all green wires.....I've seen a picture of one with corrosion in it.
They can be repaired .
I looked on my 88 for this.... it was hard to find as it was taped to the harness.It's outline gave it away.


There are actually 2 of these mass ground blocks on the 1500s, one on each side of the bike, under the side shelters of the main harness, they are orange in color, wrapped in the harness tape. Once unwrapped, look for any burnt heated, areas around each connector. You can solder in jumper wires where needed.

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby kenneth1239 » Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:24 am

made a mistake put on my flashers now cannot turn off,help

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby newday777 » Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:47 am

kenneth1239 wrote:made a mistake put on my flashers now cannot turn off,help


Welcome to the forum Ken

Start by squirting some WD40 into the switch and work the switch a bunch of times. I use it in combination with electrical contact cleaner. This will get you back to being able to shut it off.
The switch has old grease that gets gummy.
There are instructions on pulling the switch apart and cleaning it somewhere in the forum how to section I believe.

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby kenneth1239 » Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:50 pm

newday 777
wd 40 did not work maybe switch thanks

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby bellboy40 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:18 pm

Here is a link to the article written by WingAdmin on how to free up those sticky switches.

http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9296

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby seelyark1 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:36 am

Don't take that switch apart! If you get to it then spray the WD-40 into it but don't disassemble it. Mine had one of the clips broken off and when I unscrewed the handlebar screws, the parts fell out. I no longer have four way flashers! Because of that broken clip, it couldn't be reassembled. The replacement part isn't cheap.
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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:32 pm

seelyark1 wrote:Don't take that switch apart! If you get to it then spray the WD-40 into it but don't disassemble it. Mine had one of the clips broken off and when I unscrewed the handlebar screws, the parts fell out. I no longer have four way flashers! Because of that broken clip, it couldn't be reassembled. The replacement part isn't cheap.


I'd highly recommend not using WD-40 anywhere near those switches. It leaves an oily film behind (by design) which will attract dust and grit, and quickly render the switches inoperative on the road. Use a proper electrical contact cleaner that leaves behind no residue.

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby traveler105 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:50 am

I picked up some contact cleaner at walmart in the automotive section. Hoping to get to working on it soon. Garage too crowded to do it till it warms up some. I will be looking for the ground problem first but this is a 92 so I know all the switches need cleaning since they never have been. Is that a di-electric grease in the switches and do they recommend replacing it if possible ?? Or best to not get into it ?

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby kenneth1239 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:21 am

my flasher switch is not stuck, but the flashers stay on when I turn key on,need help

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby thrasherg » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:12 pm

kenneth1239 wrote:my flasher switch is not stuck, but the flashers stay on when I turn key on,need help


I suspect your switch is stuck internally, even if the bit you push with your thumb moves, the switch internally is stuck or broken, no other way can the lights actually operate without the switch inside being stuck to the left or right hand side and completing the electrical circuit.

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Re: gl1500 flashers

Postby kenneth1239 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:50 pm

thanks Gary,may tried to fix myself




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