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Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby GreatGun1988 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:57 pm



A friend suggested that I use Marvel Mystery oil to fix some noise. I called them and they say=id use 20 to 25% Marvel Mystery oil to my new oil for My 1988 Honda GL 1500. I spoke to a Honda repair person and he said that it had a wet clutch and he would not recommend it??? Anyone have the correct info????



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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby HALBUDD » Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:30 pm

First of welcome, what kind of noise are you having? You can use it as others have done hear and on other sites,but it may not stop the noise problem.If is a rattle coming from the motor it could be your main chain and just synching your carbs. will help it. If you could describe the sound there may be other members here that will know just what the problem is and how to fix it.
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby themainviking » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:16 am

You could always contact the makers of Marvel Mystery Oil and ask them their views on use with a wet clutch. You do need to be careful of the type of oil you use which must not have friction modifiers in it. I do not believe MMO fits into the category of a friction modifier, but one cannot be sure without verification.
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby dingdong » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:05 am

I don't think it will hurt the clutch. You can also use Sea Foam. It is used all the time for the same purpose with no ill effects on the clutch.
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby RBGERSON » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:22 am

Adding sea foam or MMO to your oil is usually used to help clean out the gunk in the oil pan and yes it can cause you clutch to slip as it thins your oil and acts as a solvent. It won't hurt your clutch plates but will allow them to slip if you push the engine. Most put it in run the bike for 50 -100 miles easy then change the oil hoping to get a really clean internal.

Sea foam in the gas just cleans up the carbs..same with MMO..lubes the carb parts a bit only used in small amounts.

Ticking can be loose tappets/lifters, exhaust leak, primary chain slap.
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby golden highway » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:10 am

I have used MM in my CB900c and my Goldwing 1200. My CB900c was smoking and using a little oil, suspected carbon buildup. It is now back to normal. On my Goldwing 1200 I was getting valve tapping noise on the left side, I tried seafoam with no change. I used some MM and it started to clear up after a few hundred miles. Now the tapping is gone so I assume they are pumping up as they should now. I never experienced any clutch slipping.

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby SteveB123 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:06 pm

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby GreatGun1988 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:21 pm

I just wanted to say thank you for your input. From it I get a positive leaning view. I have a valve tapping on the left side of this engine. I have tried Seafoam, I will try MMO now to see if indeed it helps the valve tapping. I believe that the seafoam did help with the carburetors. This bike has had smoking from the I believe the left side for many years, maybe this will help with that also. I feel very lucky to have all your expertise on this subject. Thanks again. I'll be back with updates.
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby dwitgoldwing » Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:43 pm

MMO will help in the carbs, too.

I got this special "recipe" from a Goldwing site and it keeps my bike running great year-round:

"To 5 gallons of gas add 2 oz. of StaBil + 2 oz. of Sea Foam + 2 oz. of Marvel Mystery Oil."
"When shutting down for a couple months double the proportion of StaBil"

I used this recipe in my GL1200, (both carbureted and fuel injected), my Ninja 250 and now in my 1993 GL1500. It works very well and helps to eliminate some of the problems of the bike "sitting".
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby GreatGun1988 » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:04 pm

Thanks All for your input. I feel safer now to do what I can to help my bike out. It is nice to start riding it again. I had a left knee replacement 2-12-2012 and the Dr. that operated on it butchered my knee. he Anesthesiologist also really messed up my femoral nerve in the left knee as well as the inner muscles. Hospital also screwed up by not locking me in the bed. Oh well I'm looking to get better now after 2 years. and am on my third Dr.????

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby dwitgoldwing » Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:46 pm

Well best wishes to you in your recovery.
It's OK to fire your Doctor if he/she is not helping you.
My fiance is an RN and has definitely had some interesting go-rounds with Docs while in the hospital...
I really don't like the Hospitalist system that is in place, now... but it unfortunately is the standard.

Soon, you'll be back on a bike...

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby TheChief » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:10 pm

I'm gettin' in on this late, but I just can't resist a snake oil thread.

I use Sea Foam in my gas, I spray Deep Creep (Sea Foam aerosol) to break up carbon deposits and as a winterizing cylinder fog. I use Dot 3 brake fluid and PB blaster to break up rust, but under no circumstances will I put a friction modifier like MMO in the primary with a wet clutch. I will use MMO to keep R/C and other small engines from rusting during the off season, but under no circumstances will I lay up any internal combustion engine with fuel in the carb. When I lay up an engine I run the carb dry and then I fog the cylinders with Deep Creep. I hate StaBil with a passion.
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby dwitgoldwing » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:07 am

OK, so you hate StaBil with a passion...what do you recommend to treat gas for winter storage?
My boat has a 14 gal. tank and I am not going to throw that away. StaBil works just fine and my 140 Mercruiser doesn't mind it at all. It also works well in my lawn mowers and motorcycles.

Personally, I won't put MMO in the trans, anyway. I would change the oil and see how it goes, but if there are trans issues, I would want to fix them.
We are planning long distance rides this year and I sure would want my bike to be 100% for them.

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby TheChief » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:15 pm

dwitgoldwing wrote:OK, so you hate StaBil with a passion...what do you recommend to treat gas for winter storage?
My boat has a 14 gal. tank and I am not going to throw that away. StaBil works just fine and my 140 Mercruiser doesn't mind it at all. It also works well in my lawn mowers and motorcycles.

Personally, I won't put MMO in the trans, anyway. I would change the oil and see how it goes, but if there are trans issues, I would want to fix them.
We are planning long distance rides this year and I sure would want my bike to be 100% for them.

DW


Never had a boat, and don't want one. At the end of the season I drain my lawn tractor, fog the motor with Deep Creep and put the gas in the truck. The weed eater and chain saws get run dry and then fogged. Leftover 2 stroke gas gets used to start the fire pit. We ride our bike often enough I don't need to lay it up for winter.

I hate StaBil because it gives some people a false sense of security, and if someone is dumb enough to let the carb go dry, that crap leaves behind a green coating that is darned near impossible to get out. Rather than laying up with a nearly full tank and StaBil, leave enough gas in the tank for a good vapor cloud, and seal off the vent. This will keep steel tanks from rusting. Come spring, dump the gas, open the tank vent, and add fresh gas. If you have a plastic tank like my lawn tractor does, just drain the tank.

If you need to keep gas on hand for emergencies, just use it in a vehicle after 30 days and buy fresh gas.
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby SteveB123 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:42 pm

TheChief wrote: but under no circumstances will I put a friction modifier like MMO in the primary with a wet clutch.


It's mineral oil and Stoddard's solvent.
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby TheChief » Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:59 pm

Ah yes, good old mineral oil, the same stuff in ZMax and several other flavors of snake oil....
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby GreatGun1988 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:17 pm

I added the Marvel Mystery Oil without any issues so far. I did notice an increase in gas mileage from about 25 MPG to 40MPG????
I have just done an oil change and will post any further developments.

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil

Postby suvcw04 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:31 am

MMO is diesel fuel, naptha and oil of wintergreen.




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