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IBArider
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no electrical after running

Postby IBArider » Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:01 pm



Here is my senerio, Riding with a group & after lunch stop I fired the 1999 Goldwing 1500 SE up with all being well. Waiting for the leader to start the group ride my m/c cut off with no electrical showing. Turned the ignition key off & on a couple of times with no electrical showing & thought that I had blown the main fuse. The fuse is good & the 30a fuse if good, new battery with
good voltage with all terminals tight. Just tried the key again and all is well & rode home. Cleaned the ignition switch with electronic cleaner although I do not think this was the cause. Any suggestion as to what made this happen or what else that needs to be checked out? (This has happen once before, as I was riding on the Interstate at 85 the m/c completely shut down. As I drifted to the right lane to reach the shoulder the m/c started running again with all electrical when I was down to around 63mph) Again the m/c completely shuts down as if someone removed the battery, first time running speed on Interstate & the second time idleing in the parking lot.



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Re: no electrical after running

Postby robb » Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:39 pm

Did you check the kill switch. Being an off-on-off it is easy to bump, especially with gloves on. Had a similar issue caused by the kick stand switch sticking. Cleaned and all was OK again. If it was dying when placed in gear might also check the clutch switch on bars

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Re: no electrical after running

Postby IBArider » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:21 pm

Thanks for your response but if it was that simple I would not have posted. Kill switch is/was the first thing I checked when it will not start as sometimes a person tries to be funny and will turn it when you are not looking but the electrics does work with the kill switch in the off position it just won't let a m/c motor start. Kick stand was and had been up in both instances and clutch switch has been cleaned but it to would not cause the electrics to quick. Also the clutch was not close to being engaged running
on the interstate but it was pulled in standing in the parking lot. Again thanks for the help but these 3 areas are not the problem.

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Re: no electrical after running

Postby RoadRogue » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:52 pm

Sounds like its time to check the Bank Angle Sensor. Its there to kill the engine incase you drop the bike like in an accident. They get reset when you turn the key off and back on again. 8-)
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Re: no electrical after running

Postby IBArider » Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:43 pm

Thanks for your help, I wanted to see what response of ideas that I would get as I was thinking it may be
a relay or the bank angle sensor. Thanks for suggesting the BAS, does anyone else have a thought as to the
area to look for this problem?

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Re: no electrical after running

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:03 pm

Actually I'm more inclined to direct you to the relay #3.It's the "tail/main"relay.
If you pull it with the key on,you should loose the electrical(oil light,side stand,etc,including the ignition.The same as you describe that happens....
my m/c cut off with no electrical showing


Relays do go bad...contaminated contacts and the such....easy enough to substitute a new one in there....

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Re: no electrical after running

Postby IBArider » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:04 pm

Thank you all for the replys. I unplug the BAS & yes the m/c would not start but the electrics do work. I replaced the # 3 relay (tail/main) and have cleaned conections of the BAS. I think it must be something getting ready to go out (has weaken) so I hope
it was the #3 relay, time will tell.

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Re: no electrical after running

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:24 pm

Someone mentioned once that the plug that the #3 relay makes contact with had deteriorated too.
I believe he removed the entire fuse block and extracted the burnt connectors and replaced them.
Did the contacts on the relay or it's connections look heat damaged.?

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Re: no electrical after running

Postby IBArider » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:54 am

No it does not. I keep the m/c clean & checked. The relay and fuse panel is clean, looks good. That being said I know things wear out and die
and I believe this is where I am at with this problem. I wanted to get some responses as to other owner's experience so that I could have an idea
or things to check that I did not know. By the responses that I have received it appears that I have an ignition switch or an BAS or the relay #3
(tail-main) going out. Thanks to this site where we can all gather information to help each other and to those who offered their experience and advice.

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Re: no electrical after running

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:07 am

As you found out,you can eliminate the BAS circuit.If it or the kill switch fails it does not cut off all the electric,just the ignition.
At least it narrows it down a little.
You are correct.Relay or ign switch.My 2 cents worth are on that relay.
Keep us posted please.

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Re: no electrical after running

Postby IBArider » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:38 am

To keep you posted, I when ahead and replaced the #3 relay (tail-main) although the ohm meter indicated that it is good. I have been riding for over 40 years and all over the USA & Canada and have only had to be towed one time. I had rather spend $30.00 now then more and time on a trip. If it is the igintion switch then the problem will show again but hopefully I will be able to make it back home before it completely dies. Thank you all for your input.




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