gl 1500 sidestand


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gl 1500 sidestand

Postby jtd » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:41 pm



Is it just me or is the sidestand on the gl 1500 too short? Seems like the bike leans waaay over when on the sidestand and it is no featherweight to lift off. Has anyone fitted at longer model?



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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby RoadRogue » Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:23 pm

I am running my shocks at max pressure and have a taller than stock car tire on my bike, it doesnt lean over too far. I would take a close look at the frame rail where the kickstand mounts, see if it is bent or twisted. The frame rail does unbolt and can be replaced from a parts bike.
It can get bent from transporting the bike on a trailer while the bike is on its side stand. The weight of the bike is too much for it when the trailer goes over bumps. Bikes should always be lashed down with only the tires on the deck, this allows the suspension to absorb the shock, never transport on the side or center stand. 8-)
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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:05 pm

RoadRogue wrote:I am running my shocks at max pressure and have a taller than stock car tire on my bike, it doesnt lean over too far. I would take a close look at the frame rail where the kickstand mounts, see if it is bent or twisted. The frame rail does unbolt and can be replaced from a parts bike.
It can get bent from transporting the bike on a trailer while the bike is on its side stand. The weight of the bike is too much for it when the trailer goes over bumps. Bikes should always be lashed down with only the tires on the deck, this allows the suspension to absorb the shock, never transport on the side or center stand. 8-)


It could also be failing from corrosion. Check the condition of the frame forward and aft of the kickstand mount as well.

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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby silverado6x6 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:20 pm

Mine was like than, a whole lot of side slop, basically to repair it I had a choice of, new stand, new frame rail.

Instead I welded up the places and with a high speed rotary carbide burr to reshaped it. Used a wire feed welder, not something for a general mechanic, I have been welding for 40 some years.
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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby jtd » Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:25 am

Thanks for the comments. I'll take a look underneath , which never occurred to me to check. Now I want to get a tattoo of the throttle twist arrow on RoadRogue's avatar though, so thanks for that too.

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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby RoadRogue » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:22 pm

We are here to help, and you are welcome for the ink idea 8-)
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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby bellboy40 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:03 pm

I had the same issue with the side stand on my 1500 also. There was no corrosion or bent places that I could find. It just leaned over too far to suit me. I bought and installed one of these chrome side stand extensions from Cyclemax and the problem is solved. Works for me! :D


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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby RoadRogue » Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:32 pm

There has to be a reason the bike is leaning too far over, if it were my bike I would like to know why and not just put a bandaid solution on it. If the frame is bent it needs to be repaired or it may fail in a much more serious situation. 8-)
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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby silverado6x6 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:33 am

Take the sidestand off, if its beveled then there is your answer, mine almost looked like a chisel it was so beveled on one side, where the bolt goes through all parts are straight and flat, over time with the spring pressure and lack of grease you wear down one side and it makes the stand stick out further.

I just welded min up, ground it flat, and I had to weld up on the frame part too.
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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby jtd » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:58 am

Thanks for the comments. I checked out the frame rail and sidestand and all looks good. Bike only had 12K miles on it when I bought it a couple years ago. I just think the sidestand is a little short for an 800+ lb bike.

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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby HALBUDD » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:06 pm

My 96 aspy does the same thing but everything is ok under it. I have no problems getting it up right even with 2 up,I was at wing ding in Ft Wayne when they had high winds come thru it knocked over a lot of bikes as there kick stands made there bikes stand to straight. You could not put any center stands down as the heat made your bike sink in to the asphalt. Also having there covers on did not help much either.
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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby robb » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:30 pm

With 10 psi in shock my bike is only slightly tipped to the left, and once blew over with a heavy wind gust. At 30 psi it is laid far enough to left that is difficult to upright without removing air from shock. Does not look any different than the other 1500's I ride with. After bike fell once, it is never left on side stand with less than 30 psi. Being short my compressor sees a lot of service.

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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby enjoyriding » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:50 pm

HALBUDD wrote:My 96 aspy does the same thing but everything is ok under it. I have no problems getting it up right even with 2 up,I was at wing ding in Ft Wayne when they had high winds come thru it knocked over a lot of bikes as there kick stands made there bikes stand to straight. You could not put any center stands down as the heat made your bike sink in to the asphalt. Also having there covers on did not help much either.



This thread is an interesting read for me. Something I have not compared with other bikes yet, since I am new to Goldwings. For my XS1100 Yamaha (fully dressed), I had an aluminum plate, about 3 1/2" or 4" square with a corner bent up, that I would place under the side stand on those hot days. The corner bent up would be enough for my foot to flick it out, as I relieved pressure, when I was getting ready to ride, I'd pick it up and then I'd store in underneath the fake leather straps on the fairing left side panel. I've never used one for the center stand, but I can see using a bigger one and storing it in a saddle bag.
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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby HALBUDD » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:27 pm

There is something much easier you can get them at any motorcycle shop,its made of plastic and is used to put under your kick stand. It has a nice hole in the end so you can put a string on it,makes it real easy to pick up. I just loop it on my clutch leaver and when Im ready to go just tilt the bike a little and pull the string up. This way I dont have to bend down to try and pick it up easy pease and its only a couple of bucks.
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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:37 pm

I use a piece of metal intended as a cover for an octagon electrical box. They're about 50 cents at a hardware store, are made of steel, and have a hole that you can loop a shoelace through, so you can pick it up while sitting on the bike. Works great!


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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby robb » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:43 am

I have a 6" x 6" piece diamond plate aluminum with a heavy string attached. Neatly fits in pocket of backrest. When riding 2 up my wife can drop it and it's easily placed under stand, even pull it up an pack it away.

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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby Sempai » Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:29 am

The bike leans way over. I have a query; when you go to dismount, you put the stand down and begin to lean the bike to the left...does the kickstand make contact with the ground and the bike keeps leaning and leaning and leaning until the stand finally takes hold of the weight?
If so, you may be having the same problem I had with my '94SE model. I'd bought it used and figured all that leaning and extream lateral movement of the side stand while parking the bike was normal for a 20 bike, but I was wrong.
As it turns out, the frame's and stand's mounting tabs had worn a way at each other, severely widening the gap between the two. I removed the side stand and welded in a bead to all the affected areas. Then used a 4" angle grinder to remove all the extra metal, in the process of trueing the gaps back to a serviceable tolerance. Now when I put the bike on the kickstand, she stands with a much nicer posture.
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Re: gl 1500 sidestand

Postby jtd » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:53 pm

I should have a chance to take off the heat shield covers when I install the shift brace, so maybe some pics then.




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