1988 wing cruise control


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1988 wing cruise control

Postby DLMwinger » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:15 pm



Hello,
I have a 1988 GL1500. Last season the cruise quit working. It will turn on but will not set. It was working fine throughout the summer and just quit one day. I know there are several electronic components that can be replaced. The shop manual does not discuss this problem. Does anyone know what the problem might be? Any help would be great.
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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:45 pm

There's a few conditions that must be met for the cruise to become active.
The brake light must be off.
You must be above 35 MPH and the spedo working.
You must be in 3rd or 4th (OD). Overdrive is easiest to verify by the dash lamp.
The switch on the clutch lever must work.This is usually the fail point.The bushing in the clutch lever wears and the cruise switch no longer is activated.
There is a cancel switch attached to the Carb too.It deactivates the cruise when the throttle is forced further than the idle rest position.
I haven't heard of any problems with that one.

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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby DLMwinger » Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:48 pm

Thank you for your response. I know the brake light is going off,my speed is high enough, in overdrive. How do I check the clutch bushing to see if that is the problem? I am not having any other issues with the clutch or the lever.

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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby dingdong » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:06 am

The "set" switch could also be dirty or otherwise defective.
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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:37 am

As far as the clutch disconnect switch,there's 2 methods.
Easiest it just to listen to it.When the clutch lever is pulled in just a little,you should hear the cruise switch click.An ohm meter test is useful too.
The "set"switch could be bad.Its a bit harder to get to the wires to test it tho.
You could follow the how to's on cleaning your switches.
If you listen to the switches on the left,one clicks as soon as it's moved and another clicks just before it touches the grip (neutral safety)
The right one has 2 clicks as soon as you start to pull the brake lever.One is the brake lamp the other is the cruise cancle .

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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby robb » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:53 am

Sometimes the right break lever switch does not release completely and averts the cruise setting. I just push forward on the lever and cruise will set. Same thing can happen with clutch lever switch. I need to change switch but it has never failed without a little help.

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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby amsoilguy » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:56 am

Can the switch assembly be taken apart to clean?
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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:10 am

Not with a pipe wrench and hammer...I did one on mine,the right hand brake/cruise dual switch assembly....I'd rather not do that again...It's small,spring loaded,tiny pivot levers....a real tedious job...and I've got the tools to do it too.
Here's a Google picture of the inside of one that is similar....


Robb...you may find that the switch is OK and the pivot in the lever is causing the problem..It's an alignment issue...not enough to affect the lever action,just the activation of the switches.

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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby robb » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:59 am

amsoilguy wrote:Robb...you may find that the switch is OK and the pivot in the lever is causing the problem..It's an alignment issue...not enough to affect the lever action,just the activation of the switches.


Totally agree. Switch checked out OK and was thinking of trying a new lever.

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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:12 pm

robb wrote:
amsoilguy wrote:Robb...you may find that the switch is OK and the pivot in the lever is causing the problem..It's an alignment issue...not enough to affect the lever action,just the activation of the switches.


Totally agree. Switch checked out OK and was thinking of trying a new lever.


Replacement switches are $15 at Cyclemax: http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/clutch_ ... 129/201582

That said, the fact that it works when you push the lever forward says to me that it isn't the switch that is the problem, it's the lever and/or bushing/push pin. Most often, it's just the bushing inside the lever that is worn:


http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/clutch_ ... hing/93502

It causes the pin from the master cylinder to not push it out far enough, and the switch doesn't get engaged as a result.

See: How to replace your clutch lever bushing

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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby DLMwinger » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:21 pm

Thanks to all who responded. I will try those things.

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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby robb » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:51 pm

robb wrote:It causes the pin from the master cylinder to not push it out far enough, and the switch doesn't get engaged as a result


Thanks. Been looking for that bushing link. Will try that next

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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby Wingsconsin » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:30 pm

My bet is the bushing too...
On my 1996 I had to also replace the clutch lever.
The pin had worn a spot into the lever (if I remember correctly) and it was not working properly.
A new lever, and bushing with a cleaning and new grease and it has been fine for several years.
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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby NebraskaHick » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:53 pm

As others have said, most likely culprit is the clutch lever bushing. I host a MC rally every August and one member's cruise control failed. On investigation we found it was the clutch lever bushing. Dealer closed, we shimmed it up with a bit of thin brass sheet and it got him back to Wisconsin with no problems.
Couple years later another one had the same problem, same Hick-Fix (also known as Red Neck Engineering) got him back in service.
(I have been working on bikes for 41 years and have come up with some rather interesting "Hick Fixes" over the years!!) ;)

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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby Wingsconsin » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:57 pm

NebraskaHick wrote:As others have said, most likely culprit is the clutch lever bushing. I host a MC rally every August and one member's cruise control failed. On investigation we found it was the clutch lever bushing. Dealer closed, we shimmed it up with a bit of thin brass sheet and it got him back to Wisconsin with no problems.
Couple years later another one had the same problem, same Hick-Fix (also known as Red Neck Engineering) got him back in service.
(I have been working on bikes for 41 years and have come up with some rather interesting "Hick Fixes" over the years!!) ;)


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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby NebraskaHick » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:01 pm

LOL! Just now noticed the previous poster's handle and wondered. Then saw the following post! Hiya, Munk!

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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby Wingsconsin » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:35 pm

That temporary repair lasted me nearly 2 months of riding...
I didn't change it until the season was nearly over in late September...
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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby artgrantz » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:43 pm

amsoilguy wrote:Can the switch assembly be taken apart to clean?

You do not need to take it apart to clean it. Remove the mounting screws so you can free the switch. There is a drain hole in the bottom, you can spray some cleaner in there. I did my brake switch that way and it hasn't acted up since. You may even be able to access the hole by just pulling back the rubber boot with the switch mounted.

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Re: 1988 wing cruise control

Postby NebraskaHick » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:24 pm

In fact, on my project bike, I noticed the micro switch was not working. So I got the brass shims out . . . ;)




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