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broken right side pocket cover

Postby OnPapasWing » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:35 pm



When I bought the bike ('96 1500SE) I didn't notice that the right side trunk pocket cover was missing. Is there anywhere I can get a new one and is it a big deal to replace?

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby Big Bob » Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:32 pm

Looks like they're still available on-line (Honda Direct) thru mother Honda for $27.00 +shipping, should be accurate. :o

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby OnPapasWing » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:29 am

Perfect. Thanks Bob. Is this common for these to break off?

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby Big Bob » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:04 am

http://www.hondadirectline.com/OEMpartf ... AM4F4600AD

Here is a link to the web site, I should have posted it originally, I've used them before for parts. Do they break often, never had an issue myself, but the piece's are not very strong for sure. Good luck

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby Uncle Fester » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:27 am

Thanks for that link, book marked it !
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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby OnPapasWing » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:32 am

thanks again, Bob. Yep, will be bookmarking that site for sure.

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:37 am

OnPapasWing wrote:Perfect. Thanks Bob. Is this common for these to break off?


It's not the best designed piece. The hinge is a small piece of plastic easily broken. And once they break, that door is gone. For that reason I (and quite a few others) have GL1500 Door Keepers to hold those things in place. I use quite a bit of Rudy's "Keeper" products - on my fenders and side panels as well.

Some people have replaced the hinge with something a little more substantial.

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby OnPapasWing » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:31 pm

Thanks! Once I get the new door ordered I will be ordering some of those keepers as well.

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby Uncle Fester » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:52 pm

Slightly off topic, but my rear pockets both have the dredded broken nubs that are supposed to be the hinge, on the main body of the pocket.

I checked with Honda, they can only be bought as a complete pocket ( door, body, latch, screws, ect ) at $200.00 for EACH pocket. OUCH !

I was wondering if using a metal hinge , from the outside of the pocket, would work ?
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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby OnPapasWing » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:57 pm

Hmmm, I just ordered a new door. I hope I have everything to install it. Otherwise I will be manufacturing to make it work. The cover itself was pricey but I wanted it in place.

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby OnPapasWing » Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:38 pm

BTW uncle fester, one of my hinge nubs is missing as well. I noticed it the other day. Got the door in. Now just ahve to find a way to attach it.

Those door keepers only keep it from flying away correct? They aren't a replacement for the hinges?!?!?

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby Doug B. » Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:13 pm

I cut the heads off of 8d nails leaving just a very short "peg" sticking out for the pin part of the assembly. JB welded them in place and...good as new!
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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby OnPapasWing » Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:23 pm

SWEET!! Thanks for the advice.

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby Uncle Fester » Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:55 pm

I fixed my doors with hinges, not very pretty, but works great. I will post a few pics tonight or tomarrow.
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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby wing in atlanta » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:43 am

I too lost one door. When I got another door I removed the nubs and ran a piece of wire through it. You don't see it when closed and still opens good.

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby OnPapasWing » Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:46 am

I've also got a broken deflector cap. I can't believe that hondadirectline wants $30 for one of these!!! That's insane!! Anyone ever replace one of these for less?

64296-MT2-000ZN CAP, L. DEFLECTOR *R176C* (CANDY SPECTRA RED) $30.18

number 23 in the fairing exploded view.

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:25 pm

OnPapasWing wrote:I've also got a broken deflector cap. I can't believe that hondadirectline wants $30 for one of these!!! That's insane!! Anyone ever replace one of these for less?

64296-MT2-000ZN CAP, L. DEFLECTOR *R176C* (CANDY SPECTRA RED) $30.18

number 23 in the fairing exploded view.

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I've replaced TWO of those damn things. Partzilla has them for $23: http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/h ... 000ZN.html

I squirted some silicone sealant into the hole of them, and pushed them into place. It makes it really hard to take off, but at least they aren't going to fly away on me. Really poor design.

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby Mh434 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:29 pm

On my "new-to-me" 1500SE, when I got it the left door cubby hinge pins were both broken off & the door was held on to the bike with a small zip tie. Plus, the flat-metal spring was missing, so the latch kept falling open. I made a new, full-length hinge pin out of brass rod, and fabricated a new latch spring out of some metal banding (the stuff piles of lumber are held together with). It seems to work great, opening, closing and latching as new.

If anyone wants pics of these mods, I can post 'em.

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby OnPapasWing » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:50 pm

Pics would be great! Please if you would be so kind. I'm more interested in the "hinge pin" setup.

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby Uncle Fester » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:54 pm

OnPapasWing wrote:Pics would be great! Please if you would be so kind. I'm more interested in the "hinge pin" setup.

Steve


X2. Pics please !
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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby Doug B. » Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:52 am

I would post a pic except with the door in place, all you see is the little setup "blob" of JB Weld. I hate to take the door off due to the fact that you never know if or when the delicate plastic (poor design) on the door part of the mechanism might break.

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby Mh434 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:06 am

Okay, several people wanted photos of my repair, so here goes...

First, I drilled through the hinge tabs on the door itself (normally, they're blind holes). Messy job, but i didn't have a really long drill bit like I needed. In retrospect, this step wasn't necessary, as the new hinge rod I made would have popped into the original blind holes. <Sigh>


Then, I drilled through the tabs on the cubby itself, where the original hinge nubs were (both were gone on mine), and worked a brass rod through the holes. The idea here is to make the brass rod just long enough so that the ends project the same amount as the original plastic nubs did. Then, the door's part of the hinge would just snap over the ends of the rod. The rod I made is a tiny bit short, so I'll be making another one about 1/8" longer, so it will be totally secure (if you fiddle with this one long enough, the door can come off the rod - a slightly longer one will prevent that - I'll probably use a little Krazy Glue to lock it into place on the cubby side, so the rod can't slide back and forth).


As I said, the spring in the latch at the top of the door was missing entirely. I fabricated this spring from metal banding material left over from a roofing shingle bundle, using sheet metal shears and a right angle grinder. Works just like the original (I copied the bends from the other door, which had an intact spring).


The finished product -


Just to prove I CAN do nice work, here's a pic of the tripe-flag mount I fabricated today. Made entirely from T6061 aluminum & stainless steel, it clamps onto the rack using a single 5/16" stainless allen-head bolt (makes it harder to steal that way), and takes only seconds to put on or remove. Doesn't fit in the trunk or bags without disassembly, though. <Another sigh>


A close-up of the base fixture...


Hope this helps on the cubby door issues. Cheers!

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby OnPapasWing » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:54 am

yeah, for sure on the door pics. Much appreciated. Don't want to loose my door.

And, what a great job on the flag holder. You certainly know your way around metal. Unfortunately I don't have a rack on the top of my trunk.
thanks again.

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby Mh434 » Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:27 pm

Further to my previous post (with the pictures), I replaced the brass rod with a longer one. To do this, I drilled through the outer edge of the door itself (in line with the holes in the hinges) to allow the longer rod to be pushed through from the outside. Then, once the new, longer brass rod was inserted, I pushed a rubber plug (fashioned from a piece of heavy rubber) and plugged the hole. You'd have to look for the hole to find it now, and the brass rod is captured. No concerns about it ever working free.

For anyone wanting to do this, I suggest using brass, stainless steel, or aluminum for the hinge pin rod, to prevent rust, particularly if you live in an area where riding in the rain is likely (up here on the west coast, it's as frequent as it is inevitable...).

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Re: broken right side pocket cover

Postby liquineer » Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:38 pm

Thanks for posting this, I have the same problem , the door stays in place OK, when latched, but |I do want to make a more permanent fix, and that looks just right, just need some JB weld or similar and I will have a go at the modification.


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