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new member with cruise control issues

Postby mwink » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:41 am



I just bought a 1990 goldwing that runs great and rides good. I took it out yesterday and found that the cruise doesnt work. I looked at the manual and it said to push the cruise button in and then you could set the cruise it did not work. Whenever i push the cruise button in the dash light that says cruise on doesnt light up .The manual also says that when you first switch the key to the on position that this light should come on then go off until you push in the button. It does not come on at all .Anybody have a clue the previous owner says that the cruise did work when he used it a couple of months ago.I did check the cruise on switch a on the handelbar and it is good. Anyone have any suggestions of where to start? Also will the controls from a 1989 work on my bike because the on off switch doesnt work the guy had the two wires that goes to the switch taped together?
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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:04 pm

mwink wrote:I just bought a 1990 goldwing that runs great and rides good. I took it out yesterday and found that the cruise doesnt work. I looked at the manual and it said to push the cruise button in and then you could set the cruise it did not work. Whenever i push the cruise button in the dash light that says cruise on doesnt light up .The manual also says that when you first switch the key to the on position that this light should come on then go off until you push in the button. It does not come on at all .Anybody have a clue the previous owner says that the cruise did work when he used it a couple of months ago.I did check the cruise on switch a on the handelbar and it is good. Anyone have any suggestions of where to start? Also will the controls from a 1989 work on my bike because the on off switch doesnt work the guy had the two wires that goes to the switch taped together?
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We can rule out the cruise control fuse straight away, because the start circuit uses the same fuse, and if it was blown, you wouldn't be able to start your bike.

Both the cruise on and cruise set lights should come on for a second when the ignition is first switched on. Because yours don't, that means that either both of those lights are burned out, or there is a problem with the cruise control computer itself.

Diagnosis procedures of the cruise control computer are fairly lengthy and involved - how comfortable are you working with electronics and electronic test equipment (i.e. digital multimeters)?

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby mwink » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:34 pm

I am sorry the cruise set light will come on for a second or two when the ignition switch is turned on it is the cruise on light that doesnt come on at all. I am fairly good with digital multimeters. I appreaciate any help that you can offer.
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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:22 pm

I don't have the schematic for the 90...I'm hoping that the 89 is the same.....
As far as I can see,the lamp test is a function of the LCD module and not the cruise.....so if the lamp does not light it may simply be bad....
I have no confirmation,but it is possible that if the lamp is bad,the cruise module will not operate.

Most problems with a cruise that will not "set" is related to one of the safety switches....usually the one at the clutch lever.

Get the lamp checked out first....Sorry...it will take a bit of time to get to...while your there,might as well replace ALL the lamps....I didn't on mine and 4 months later another dash lamp went out.

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby mwink » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:44 pm

I will check this out .Thank you for the help i will let you know what i find
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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:22 pm

Please do.The more info we can gather about why a cruise fails to work the easier it become to service it.
I know that the cruise is acting up on mine.Ill set it and the speed varies almost 10 mph.
I'm suspecting a problem in the vacuum lines or valves.Possibly the filter too.
More to post about when I find out.

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:56 am

virgilmobile wrote:I don't have the schematic for the 90...I'm hoping that the 89 is the same.....
As far as I can see,the lamp test is a function of the LCD module and not the cruise.....so if the lamp does not light it may simply be bad....
I have no confirmation,but it is possible that if the lamp is bad,the cruise module will not operate.


The LCD module has a "lamp test" module that provides a ground to the low fuel and oil pressure lights for a second or two after power is initially turned on to light them up:

Bulb Self Test
Bulb Self Test


The cruise control does the same thing internally for the "Cruise on" and "Cruise set" lights at power up. The fact that only one of his two lights is lighting up says to me that one of the bulbs is burned out. There is a simple way to test for this: because the cruise control module is solid state you can't force it to do things it's not programmed to do. So in the instrument cluster, there is a test wire (blue/orange, in the large white connector on the back of the instrument panel) that when grounded, will light up the Cruise On and Cruise Set lights:

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:03 am

by WingAdmin ...The cruise control does the same thing internally for the "Cruise on" and "Cruise set" lights


I don't see that on the 93 schematic....it shows 2 sections of the "lamp test" function...one in the cruise schematic (the one I posted) and the oil/low fuel indicator in the indicators schematic(your post)....

It appears that the lamp test part of the LCD module (on the 93 schematic) operates/tests the oil,low fuel,cruise set,cruise on.

Is the 1990 different?
The manual lamp test method is the same as stated and it still sounds like the one lamp is bad...

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby Winger 99 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:55 pm

I Had trouble with cruise not coming on found problem in the front brake switch behind the lever not making contact.Bike was showing feont brake on causing the cruise not to set.

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby seelyark1 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:08 am

Any brake and/or clutch switch will cause this problem.
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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby mwink » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:30 am

Even if one of the brake switches are stuck shouldnt the cruise on light come on when it is switched on reguardless weather it is set or not?

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:42 am

That's correct.Push the power button in and the cruise light goes on.The set lamp will light when all the rest is OK.

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby eberlebike4 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:12 pm

Hey Virgilmobil,if you have a fluctuation of 10 mph with your cruise set.Check your speedo cable where it mounts to the axle/wheel.If there is a hairline crack(from a lil bit of to much torque applied to mount bolt)It will throw of your set speed.

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:30 pm

I'll look into that.I did notice Sunday that the speed would be set at 70 and start climbing.I also noticed that my spedo was wiggling just a bit.It does produce the pulses for the tach so I guess it was just playing catch up.Ill lube the cable and try to stabilize the spedo.I suspect its the problem.I don't recall having a problem when it was set at a smooth 60 mph.
Spedo bouncing,cruise bouncing too.
Makes sense now.

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby rbyess » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:35 am

my 85 ltd would not engage cruise and i found the pivot pin in the clutch lever was worn out , not allowing the switch to be made . this can be checked with a dmm . also has a switch on the brake lever .

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby CaNorseman » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:11 pm

Hello, another new member learning a 91 gl1500 aspencade. Is there a minimum speed or rpm to allow the cruise control to engage?

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby bntyhntr6975 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:51 am

For the OP: sounds like the 'cruise on' bulb is burnt out since it does not come on at the test. Have you tried to set it with the button pushed in? Maybe it will still set, maybe it wont. I'm curious to know tho.

To the new post about minimim speed to set; yes. Unless its been modded, the cruise should set from 40-80mph, indicated. 4th and 5th gears only. Once modded, cant recal what minimum speed is but will set and hold well past the 80mph limit, in 5th gear.

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby bntyhntr6975 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:10 am

Sorry, been working way too much. My above post should have said 30-80mph, not 40-80.

And not sure if the cruise on a '91 can be modded, I know '93 and up can.

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby CaNorseman » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:32 pm

Thanks for the reply and info on cruise set speed. Love this site. Years of experience here.

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby w9r1x4 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:14 pm

virgilmobile wrote:I'll look into that.I did notice Sunday that the speed would be set at 70 and start climbing.I also noticed that my spedo was wiggling just a bit.It does produce the pulses for the tach so I guess it was just playing catch up.Ill lube the cable and try to stabilize the spedo.I suspect its the problem.I don't recall having a problem when it was set at a smooth 60 mph.
Spedo bouncing,cruise bouncing too.
Makes sense now.

A bad speedo cable if the speedometer is bouncing is the culprit. Same thing happened to mine. Cheap fix but a PITA to replace the cable. Had mine done when the forks were off, otherwise youll likely have to remove the instrument cluster unless anybody else knows a better way. If you do that might as well go ahead and replace the cruise filters, the air filter, and maybe upgrade the lights in the instruments to leds.

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:17 am

w9r1x4 wrote:A bad speedo cable if the speedometer is bouncing is the culprit. Same thing happened to mine. Cheap fix but a PITA to replace the cable. Had mine done when the forks were off, otherwise youll likely have to remove the instrument cluster unless anybody else knows a better way. If you do that might as well go ahead and replace the cruise filters, the air filter, and maybe upgrade the lights in the instruments to leds.


I've been able to remove mine without pulling the instrument cluster - if you remove the stem under cover:

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You can reach up from below and cram your hands up far enough to grasp the knurled knob at the end of the speedometer cable and twist it off. If you have large hands you might not be able to do this.

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby w9r1x4 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:19 am

WingAdmin wrote:
w9r1x4 wrote:A bad speedo cable if the speedometer is bouncing is the culprit. Same thing happened to mine. Cheap fix but a PITA to replace the cable. Had mine done when the forks were off, otherwise youll likely have to remove the instrument cluster unless anybody else knows a better way. If you do that might as well go ahead and replace the cruise filters, the air filter, and maybe upgrade the lights in the instruments to leds.


I've been able to remove mine without pulling the instrument cluster - if you remove the stem under cover:

Image

You can reach up from below and cram your hands up far enough to grasp the knurled knob at the end of the speedometer cable and twist it off. If you have large hands you might not be able to do this.

ahaaaaaaaaa....good to know

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Re: new member with cruise control issues

Postby ozemarketeer » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:01 am

Hello There. I know i am a bit slow off the mark, but found this great video for troubleshooting the GL1500 cruise control and reverse gear issues.
Better late than never, but it might assist others who have been following this great site and the info/advice that it contains.





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