Compufire Install frustration


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Compufire Install frustration

Postby Wingsconsin » Fri May 23, 2014 11:37 am



After 85,000 miles of running my Compufire I decided last fall to send it in to have it reworked for the next 85K.
New seals & bearings and it is ready to go. As I am redoing the shifter shaft seal and adding the shifter pivot I am all up in that side of the bike anyways so it really was a good time to do it. Now I am trying to put it all back together. I remember I had a VERY difficult time getting the old one out - it took like 3-4 hours of pushing, pulling twisting and cussing to get it to pop out - but it finally did...

Now I am experiencing the same thing going back in... :cry:
So I decided to investigate a little bit as to why this was to difficult for me....

I took pictures of MY Compufire and Compared them to pictures of NEW Compufires I found on the interweb...

MY Compufire after rework --



Interweb Compufire(s)
-The one on the left-




Do YOU notice anything that might make a difference to the install....? :?


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Re: Compufire Install frustration

Postby MikeB » Fri May 23, 2014 11:52 am

What I see is that the tail shaft housing on the rebuilt unit is 90 degrees out of position with the Interweb Compufire. Is that what you see?
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Re: Compufire Install frustration

Postby Wingsconsin » Fri May 23, 2014 11:56 am

MikeB wrote:What I see is that the tail shaft housing on the rebuilt unit is 90 degrees out of position with the Interweb Compufire. Is that what you see?



WINNER !!! -- I am going to cut that rear lug off and install that dang thing tonight....

I have been struggling with it for a total of nearly 4 hours of in & out and in & out ... :evil:

I was beginning to think I was going insane -- but I think the Previous Owner had cleaned or rebuilt it before me, it was like this when I took it out I believe and the fella that rebuilt it for me just put it back together the way he got it.... :roll:

Stay tuned for updates over the weekend !
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Re: Compufire Install frustration

Postby ct1500 » Fri May 23, 2014 11:58 am

Yeah the rear housing is 90 degrees out of sync to the other pics. Confirm by holding alt in its mounting position next to opening and see where your electrical plug is now, is it off or different location then when originally taken off?
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Re: Compufire Install frustration

Postby Wingsconsin » Fri May 23, 2014 12:00 pm

ct1500 wrote:Yeah the rear housing is 90 degrees out of sync to the other pics. Confirm by holding alt in its mounting position next to opening and see where your electrical plug is now, is it off or different location then when originally taken off?


Honestly - I did not notice when I took it out..I just remember it was a real PIA (took hours to wiggle it out)
Then I boxed it up and sent it out until this week when I wanted to put it in again...
It is out of position -- but the wires will reach if I can get it back in....
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Re: Compufire Install frustration

Postby ct1500 » Fri May 23, 2014 12:03 pm

Just remove 4 screws and pry/tap front half of alt away from stator (thing in the middle) and move rear case half back about 1/8 inch and rotate to correct orientation. This so you don't have to mess with the brushes which is easy anyways. You don't want a bunch of filings in or around your unit.

Edit; stator stays with rear case half, rotate the front
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Re: Compufire Install frustration

Postby Wingsconsin » Fri May 23, 2014 12:06 pm

Those screws are ..? Torx ? I will need a special Socket to get them loose / out ...At least on mine.../!? :?
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Re: Compufire Install frustration

Postby MikeB » Fri May 23, 2014 12:08 pm

Cutting off that extra mounting tab that is used in an automotive type installation only won't hurt a thing.
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Re: Compufire Install frustration

Postby redial » Fri May 23, 2014 8:14 pm

Might be a good argument to try HemiRoids version of the alternator?
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Re: Compufire Install frustration

Postby robb » Fri May 23, 2014 9:11 pm

It was suggested to used a video camera for removal and it made install a snap. Stock unit fell out with ease but the larger unit required the same twist to go back in.




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