1999 GL1500 SE


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1999 GL1500 SE

Postby wbhick » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:50 pm



Hi Folks,

I owned an '82 1100 Aspencade which I added Progressives to front and back. It rode like a dream for years. I just bought a '99 1500 SE (Canadian Edition - so no air valves to add air support in the front - why I don't know - US version has them) and the front (back is great) was riding VERY rough (pounding and shaking over anything rough on the rode). Two months ago I changed the stock springs in the front to Progressives. Things seemed to significantly improve - still not as good as the 1100 but better.

Last week four pit bull terriers literally attacked me on the bike at slow speed. I had to turn around in a tight space, (did get bitten on the legs) and geared down and took off. One of the dogs chased after me and ran into the left front tire at about a 45 degree angle - I couldn't avoid the dog and hit him. The bike came up about a foot off the ground and came down fairly hard on the pavement. Fortunately I didn't drop the bike or I'd be in the hospital now. Needless to say I didn't turn around fearing the other three. I love dogs generally but those four were out for my blood - totally unprovoked too. Never had that happen in all my years of riding.

Now I have oil seeping out of the left fork seal (not the right) and on a recent trip (300 miles) I noticed the ride is rough again although not on smooth pavement. It does not appear that I damaged the actual fork tube. I base that on the fact it rides just fine at speed on smooth pavement.

My question to any of you is about the ride of a 1500 (particularly vs. an 1100)? What advice do you have for me to correct this. I love the bike although I find the seat not as comfortable as the 1100 either. Again, any good ideas? I don't want to just throw money after it unless I'm fairly sure I'm looking a solutions. For the seat I do have a sheepskin that came with it - I haven't used it but wonder it that alone would help the seat issue.

Thanks so much for your ideas and advice - I sure appreciate this site, use it ALL the time.

Brian



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Re: 1999 GL1500 SE

Postby tfdeputydawg » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:31 pm

Most likely blow a fork seal.
My opinion of Progressive springs is not a good one! To stiff for me!
I had a 2000SE and found 0 air in the front was best for my riding.
My opinion is if one has more than 30K on OEM springs, they are needing replaced!
Changed my 1800's fork springs @ 32K. Replaced w/OEM's and yes it is now a trike but, still rides fine for me.

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Re: 1999 GL1500 SE

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:50 pm

Progressive fronts are a bit more stiff yes, and I also run mine at 0 psi.

More than likely you have blown a fork seal, not a big deal to fix. Have a look at How to rebuild your front forks.

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Re: 1999 GL1500 SE

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:59 pm

Then I'd be looking for the owners of the remaining dogs to pay for everything.

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Re: 1999 GL1500 SE

Postby cbx4evr » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:05 pm

virgilmobile wrote:Then I'd be looking for the owners of the remaining dogs to pay for everything.


I would be reporting this to the police. Next these dogs are going to kill a kid.
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Re: 1999 GL1500 SE

Postby dingdong » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:43 am

If the dog bite punctured the skin and brought blood you need to go back to the owners and make sure the dogs have had their rabies vaccinations.
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Re: 1999 GL1500 SE

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:02 am

I've only had a dog come after me once on my bike. For whatever reason, some dogs see motorcycles as a threat, and when the bike is moving they try to chase it down. They are very good at chasing, and are genetically programmed to automatically calculate intercept angles (used to accurately chase down and catch prey). To get around this, when you see a dog angling toward you, slow down and downshift if necessary. They will adjust their intercept angle to catch you at the slower speed. When they are close, suddenly accelerate, which will leave them behind and without enough time to adjust their approach to compensate.

You said you were making a U-turn, so I don't know if you would have been able to do this or not. But when a dog comes toward you on the street from a yard as you pass by, this technique will work every time.

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Re: 1999 GL1500 SE

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:59 am

That works with a bike.Never had to try it with 4 pit bulls coming at me tho.
It's not so great in a car.
A Mastiff on a dead run at my compact from a angle,I slowed down and timed the attack angle.The car couldn't get out of the way.No HP to get it to move very quick.
The mut hit head first into the drivers door...dented it so bad I couldn't get it open.
The dogs owner made it right.
The dog was fine,except for the knot on his head.He quit chasing cars too.Especially parked ones.

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Re: 1999 GL1500 SE

Postby Mh434 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:15 pm

WingAdmin wrote:I've only had a dog come after me once on my bike. For whatever reason, some dogs see motorcycles as a threat, and when the bike is moving they try to chase it down. They are very good at chasing, and are genetically programmed to automatically calculate intercept angles (used to accurately chase down and catch prey). To get around this, when you see a dog angling toward you, slow down and downshift if necessary. They will adjust their intercept angle to catch you at the slower speed. When they are close, suddenly accelerate, which will leave them behind and without enough time to adjust their approach to compensate.

You said you were making a U-turn, so I don't know if you would have been able to do this or not. But when a dog comes toward you on the street from a yard as you pass by, this technique will work every time.

Good advice - you clearly know dogs! I've tried this myself, and it does, indeed, work every time.

Many dogs hate wheeled contrivances of any sort and a group of dogs, as in the OP's case, constitutes a pack. That can complicate things, as a pack that is practiced at group attacks may make the maneuver more difficult. It's still the best tactic available, though.

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Re: 1999 GL1500 SE

Postby wbhick » Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:41 pm

I have reported the incident to the police - who knows what will come of that.

I've also pulled both forks off the bike and I have a problem. On the left side (the side the dog hit me) there are some very small scratches on the upper inner fork tube (the shiny part that goes into the fork seal, etc.). I took it the local HONDA dealership and was advised that while small likely still significant and likely would slowly but surely take out another oil seal. SO.....what are my options. Does anyone know of any way to fix these minor nicks. You have to look hard to even see them but, unfortunately, they are there. I wondered about using 800 - 1000 grit emery cloth?? I checked out several sites (bikebandit.com and others) and I can't even seem to figure out what the part is called and if it is even available. Please let me know if you have any ideas.

Thanks so much. BTW following the "How-To" article on removing the forks was a breeze - had them both on my bench in 1 1/2 hours.

Brian

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Re: 1999 GL1500 SE

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:51 am

wbhick wrote:I have reported the incident to the police - who knows what will come of that.

I've also pulled both forks off the bike and I have a problem. On the left side (the side the dog hit me) there are some very small scratches on the upper inner fork tube (the shiny part that goes into the fork seal, etc.). I took it the local HONDA dealership and was advised that while small likely still significant and likely would slowly but surely take out another oil seal. SO.....what are my options. Does anyone know of any way to fix these minor nicks. You have to look hard to even see them but, unfortunately, they are there. I wondered about using 800 - 1000 grit emery cloth?? I checked out several sites (bikebandit.com and others) and I can't even seem to figure out what the part is called and if it is even available. Please let me know if you have any ideas.

Thanks so much. BTW following the "How-To" article on removing the forks was a breeze - had them both on my bench in 1 1/2 hours.

Brian


It depends on how deep the scratches are. You could try polishing them out. If they are deep, some people have used J-B Weld to fill them in, then polish it down level with the surrounding surface. The idea is that it should be as smooth as possible, to avoid having abrasive edges of scratches wearing away the seal.

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Re: 1999 GL1500 SE

Postby wbhick » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:01 pm

WingAdmin,

Thanks for this and all your great ideas. The "scratches" are REALLY small - you actually almost need a magnifying glass to see them - that said they are there for sure. I did find the part and could replace it for $179 - UGH! Do you have any recommendations for what product I might use to polish them? I'm good friends with a machinist and he may have some ideas too.

Brian

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Re: 1999 GL1500 SE

Postby Uncle Fester » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:13 pm

You have the tubes off the bike, right ? If so, take the scratched tube/s to a chrome shop and have those guys buff them out for you, or if you have a car wax buffer, get a sheep wool bonnet and a bar of jewlers rouge and buff them yourself


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