Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights


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Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby bstig60 » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:39 pm



I am getting ready to install some after market cornering lights on my '99 1500. Is there a way I can wire them to run as running lights instead? My thought is I would like to wire up a switch where the lights can act as the cornering lights as well as driving lights. Does anyone know of a way to make this work?


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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby Uncle Fester » Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:47 pm

I know to convert then is just a wire cut, but I am not sure what wire. Some one will be al9ng who knows better. . . .
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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:53 pm

I would like to wire up a switch where the lights can act as the cornering lights as well as driving lights.


Lemme get this straight....You want both lights to be bright with a switch....Driving lights
and when you use the turn signal,assuming the switch is off,they are cornering lamps again...
So just a switch to over-ride the cornering function...Right.???
If that's right,you'll need a single throw double pole switch....attach a hot fused wire to each side and independent wires from the other two terminals direct to the cornering lamp...
The double switch is needed to separate left and right lamps.
Here's the switch and wiring...Thanks Google.

Now there is a way to rewire the bike so both the cornering lamps stay on all the time(driving lamps) and just the one goes off with the turn signal...It takes a bit of cross frame wiring to get it right..(or left).
Essentially changing both relays to constant hot output then route the left lamp wire to the right side and right to the left....Then both stay on all the time and only one turns off during the turn....

Yes you will have to cross wire them otherwise the right lamp will go off with the right turn...
The last thing to consider...will the housing stand the heat from a constant bright lamp.????
How bout using LED's.???

Hope I didn't confuse you....

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:11 pm

On my 88,I replaced the 2 relays with generic auto type...They have the connections I needed...
power(red) goes to the coil,#85, and switch,#30....the lamp is connected to the terminal on the inside...It's terminal...#87...leave the harness connection to #86...that's the control wire from the turn signal switch...
I might also suggest...Reverse the wires that are connected to #87 and #30....

The confusing part her is that as soon as you start the bike,both relays are energized....when you operate the turn signal,that one relay is actually turned off....Honda uses the #87a contact to operate the lamp...we would be backwards....

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby bstig60 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:45 pm

Thanks for the input. I believe I understand. The driving light on the side you are turning away from will go off; i.e. if I am turning left, the right light will go off.... Correct?
I spoke with Cyclemax today and they said the bulb socket won't stand the heat, so I am going to send the cornering lights back and get their driving light kit which uses a different bulb and then wire it up the way you stated. If you have done a diagram, it would be helpful.
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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:54 am

That would be the idea.keep both lights bright going down the road and turn off the opposite lamp from the direction your turning.
I'll work up the diagram and parts needed today.

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby Uncle Fester » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:33 am

you might consider these, less power draw and whiter light too. . . .

http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl1500_ ... /83/195210
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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby bstig60 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:20 am

virgilmobile wrote:That would be the idea.keep both lights bright going down the road and turn off the opposite lamp from the direction your turning.
I'll work up the diagram and parts needed today.

Thanks. The wiring diagram will be very helpful. I sent the cornering lights back yesterday and will be ordering the LED running light kit as soon as they credit my account.
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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:03 pm

I'll try to get it drawn up this afternoon and post it.

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby Andy Cote » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:58 pm

The factory cornering lights had a relay that activated the light only on one side when the directional was turned on. These use 25 watt incandescent bulbs. The factory driving lights were offered in later years. They are always on and used a 18 watt halogen bulb. Since it seems that your bike has neither now, you can buy either kit.

The question I have is why would you want to combine these things? Why turn off the light on the outboard side when cornering? What does that give you?
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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby Uncle Fester » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:00 pm

Andy Cote wrote:The factory cornering lights had a relay that activated the light only on one side when the directional was turned on. These use 25 watt incandescent bulbs. The factory driving lights were offered in later years. They are always on and used a 18 watt halogen bulb. Since it seems that your bike has neither now, you can buy either kit.

The question I have is why would you want to combine these things? Why turn off the light on the outboard side when cornering? What does that give you?



I agree, WHY ? I may be wrong, but it sounds like a lot of pain and time for no real reason. I am adding the LED kit I linked before here to my bike later on, but for now, my bike has a kit that uses the FAT bulb.
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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:15 am

I don't question the "want" factor.This isn't a safety thing.
Iffin he wants the cornering light effect,I can make it do it with a simple cross wiring.
Just different.Bright driving lights all the time and still retain the cornering light use.
One could just leave them on all the time too ....but....why not.?
I like it.
I've got mine rigged up with dual filament lamps...normal running on the lower "park" lamp and switched to the brighter "brake" lamp for cornering.
Just because I can. :D

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:00 pm

Ok...Here it is...
I do suggest a procedure for doing this...
First locate the relays and have the new ones handy...
look at the color codes to verify you got your hands on the right part....
Unhook just one relay and attach the new one.Turn on the key and verify that it works just like the old one....
Repeat this for the other side...
Attach your new lights and verify that they work also...

By the schematic and picture,you see that there is one wire on each relay that will be moved to the "spare" (normally open) terminal....move both of them there...
Test your lights again....This time they should both be on with the key and the left will go off when you operate the left turn signal....****Backward from what you want *****

The last step is the cross wiring....It's unhooking the wire that goes to the left lamp and hooking it to the right relay and the same for the right to left...Effectively just swapping lamp positions.

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby david607 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:03 pm

Any one Know where you a can get the springs from the back of the cornering lights please ???? :(

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby gordonv » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:10 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:you might consider these, less power draw and whiter light too. . . .

http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl1500_ ... /83/195210


Notice the white connectors, these are just plain jumpers that allow the lights to stay on.

I bought these lights, and I like them.

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby Uncle Fester » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:38 pm

I had not noticed the "jumpers" in the pictures, but in my case, not needed as mine are wired straight to a relay controlled by a toggle switch and to the battery ( done by PO ).

Virgilmobile , I like that idea of dual brightness lights, very cool !
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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby virgilmobile » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:45 pm

The replacement relay has that extra connection.I figured..why not use it.

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby david607 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:10 pm

What i would like to get is the springs and the bulb connectors as the ones i have are not too good but the lights are sound :) :x

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby virgilmobile » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:26 pm

If you can post a good picture of it and a few measurements I'll dig around my stuff and see if I can ring something.

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby gordonv » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:33 pm

david607 wrote:What i would like to get is the springs and the bulb connectors as the ones i have are not too good but the lights are sound :) :x


Since you are in the UK, I would just go out and buy some after market spring from your local hardware or auto parts store. The rubber could be heat shrink tubing.

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby virgilmobile » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:40 pm

That's a good idea too.You might find some in the fog lights at the local car junk yard.the connectors can be renewed with parts from the auto store.

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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby david607 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:20 am

Here Are a few Picks of the light i need the bulb holder and springs i can get them cheers Dave[img]
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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby bstig60 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:10 pm

Thanks for the wiring diagram. I have the led running light kit on order.
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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby bstig60 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:17 am

LED Driving Light kit should be delivered today. I am supposed to get the back back from the shop today after they fixed the running problem. So I will install the running lights next week. I will study the wiring diagram and pick up any parts I need. Thanks again, no doubt I will have questions.........
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Re: Converting Cornering Lights to Driving Lights

Postby bstig60 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:22 pm

Got the bike back yesterday. Running lights arrived today. The running issue isn't fixed, so the bike has to go back to the shop on Tuesday.


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