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reverse wont stay engaged

Postby BadBowTie » Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:57 pm



i have a 98 1500 se. the reverse wont stay engaged. start bike, bike in neutral, move reverse lever to reverse position, neutral light goes off and reverse light goes on, push reverse/start switch and sometimes it works correctly, and sometimes it will move an inch or 2, when it quits the main relay next to the battery clicks off but the yellow/red wire on the relay still has 12 v. when i release the reverse/starter switch i loose the 12v on the yellow/red wire. when i push reverse/starter switch again i get the same results or it works. is that relay bad?
problem 2, i put on 2 different trailer modules with 4 pin flat for trailer. since i have done that my cruise is cancelled when i turn on my blinker. any ideas. the module i used is one u would find on a car or truck when u have separate brake and blinker bulbs.



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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby ct1500 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:31 am

If starter relay A to the right of battery were bad it would also be giving problems during regular engine starting which it doesn't so that is OK.

When did the problem begin to occur and was it after any other work done to the MC. Intermittent problems can usually be traced back to a poor wiring connection someplace. When it does not work will the reverse light drop out?
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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby BadBowTie » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:58 am

bike had this problem when i bought it 30 day ago. neutral goes off like it should, reverse light does come on and stays on when trying to use reverse. i am a retired auto tech so i know bout bad connections and the other stuff. if the relay is good then why is it releasing when there is still 12v on the exciter side of the relay. that relay kicks off when reverse quits but still has 12v on the exciter side. i have also taken the relay apart and there is no corrosion in there was clean in there.

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby ct1500 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:39 am

It is because the minus side of relay is dropping out, the yellow/red always has juice when starter button pushed. The likely suspects would be reverse relay switch, 65A fuse and wiring for proper integrity, starter relay regulator and it's red connector. Reverse switch and cable adjustment on side of motor should also be checked for proper operation and that it is not hanging up.
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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby BadBowTie » Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:06 am

yellow/red wire gets hot when reverse button is pushed. 65 amp fuse is good.

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:38 pm

This can happen if one of the 5 amp reverse fuses is burned out.

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby BadBowTie » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:51 pm

the last i checked all fuses were good

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:08 pm

BadBowTie wrote:the last i checked all fuses were good


Including those two in-line fuses inside that rubber cover?

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby BadBowTie » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:29 am

i believe so. i can recheck.

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby Uncle Fester » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:42 am

As to the Cruise Control problem, it is because the FLAT FOUR connectors combine the brake and turn function, so when the turn signal is activated, it activates the brake lights too, canceling the CC function. I recommend a ROUND 5 or ROUND 6 plug set up, these keep the turn signals and brake functions separate, eliminating this problem.

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby BadBowTie » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:11 am

thanks for ur help. i thought that the back feed thru the control box was the problem. will just have to live with that.

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:46 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:As to the Cruise Control problem, it is because the FLAT FOUR connectors combine the brake and turn function, so when the turn signal is activated, it activates the brake lights too, canceling the CC function. I recommend a ROUND 5 or ROUND 6 plug set up, these keep the turn signals and brake functions separate, eliminating this problem.


If that is the case, installing a trailer isolator will fix this problem:


http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl1500_ ... ness/59647

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby BadBowTie » Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:22 pm

i have an automotive control box that seperates the brake from the blinker. it is not just hooked up streight 2 one another. it doesnt shut off the cruise when use on a car or truck. i dont understand y it doesnt work on a bike?

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:52 pm

BadBowTie wrote:i have an automotive control box that seperates the brake from the blinker. it is not just hooked up streight 2 one another. it doesnt shut off the cruise when use on a car or truck. i dont understand y it doesnt work on a bike?


It depends on how it is "separating" them - if it's just some diodes in a box, it may still allow enough current to cancel the cruise. Adding the isolator I posted above will truly isolate the trailer from the bike's lighting circuits (it's basically a box of small relays), and will solve your problem.

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby BadBowTie » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:40 pm

with the goldwing isolater do u have to run a seperate brake and blinker bulb on the trailer since there is a 5 wire system?

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:15 pm

BadBowTie wrote:with the goldwing isolater do u have to run a seperate brake and blinker bulb on the trailer since there is a 5 wire system?


You could install a combiner as well as the isolator (the isolator connects to the bike, the combiner connects to the isolator). Then you still have it fully isolated from the bike, but don't have to change out the wiring on your trailer.

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Re: reverse wont stay engaged

Postby BadBowTie » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:38 pm

kool thanks a lot for ur help




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