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cornering light conversion

Postby chefkev121 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:41 am



Hey everyone I'm having trouble finding the relays that control the cornering lights. I know if I cut the "green wires" they will effectively become running lights I can't locate them I have 93 gl1500 SE. maybe someone has a picture with better landmarks. Our a detailed description of their location. I've looked through the post that talks about replacing the OEM bulbs with leds.


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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby castlewing » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:11 am


According to the wiring diagram the relay you are looking for is the position relay number 7 on the diagram.

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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby spiralout » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:57 am

I've never had any interest in doing this mod to my '96 SE but this post made me curious. I already had the lower fairings off from a carb synch yesterday so I went outside to look for the relays. The wires from the cornering lights both go up behind the upper fairing then come back down to the relays which are mounted behind the right side lower fairing.

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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:00 pm

castlewing wrote:
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According to the wiring diagram the relay you are looking for is the position relay number 7 on the diagram.


No, that's not the correct relay. As mentioned above, the relays (there's two of them) in question are actually located below the lower fairing, mounted to the frame, fairly close to the cornering lights themselves.

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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby castlewing » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:48 pm

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According to the wiring diagram the relay you are looking for is the position relay number 7 on the diagram.


No, that's not the correct relay. As mentioned above, the relays (there's two of them) in question are actually located below the lower fairing, mounted to the frame, fairly close to the cornering lights themselves.


The error is mine, having looked at the diagram again, sorry if my comment was misleading. However, these relays are absent on my bike as can hopefully be seen in the image below that was taken during some recent repair work on the bike... perhaps they were removed by a previous owner... something I will have to look into. My cornering lights work OK and are switched from an axillary switch cluster usually sitting on top of the front break reservoir.


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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby chefkev121 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:03 pm

I followed the wires from the lights after the p lug they are wrapped in electrical tape. So I pulled back the tape which exposed two wires sw hen I followed them up higher they run up under the upper part of the fairing. I gu didn't see a relay. They are located on the right side of the bike when you sit on it correct? I guess over the weekend I'll look again. Do you recommend changing to bulbs to a lower wattage to prevent the possibility of melting the housing? Until I'm able to replace them with LED's?
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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby Coyote1 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:25 am

I am considering doing the running lights also and I presently do not have cornering lights either. While checking to insure I have the wiring, I noticed a 4 prong connector next to the 2 wire light connector. Can anyone tell me what that connector is for?
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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby Michael Faircloth » Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:24 pm

I did this change too.... but I added a wire to each side light and made it hot whenever the key was on. The lights are 2 filament and now I have running lights and also the second filament comes on with the turn signal.
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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby gordonv » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:29 pm

I swapped mine out with the light kit, which comes with the connectors/wire to "jump" them on all the time.

Happy with the increase lighting seen and also the few times I drive at night.

More expensive than just doing the modification, but I like the lights more than the old lenses that where there before.

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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby robb » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:25 pm

I live in the country on a twisting hilly road where fog likes to frequent. Cornering lights allow you to see where fog lights don't go. Have an upper set of fog lamps for driving, but cornering light shines about 10' farther to side than fog lamps. Never missed a turn or cut it too close form lack of light.

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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby bstig60 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:51 pm

My 88 has the cornering lights and they are handy when riding on dark roads at night. My 99 Aspencade did not have the cornering lights, so I added a set of LED running lights that I got as a kit from Cyclemax. They give additional light at night and aid in being seen during the day. The wiring is all there and the kit just plugs into the stock wiring harness. I also added the trunk and fairing side lights with a wiring kit to add them to the turn signals, also from Cyclemax and also a plug and play kit.
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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby Davek80514 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:31 pm

Now I'm no genius by any means but why can't we put in LED bulbs in the turning lights and connect two positive wires to turn them on using diodes on each positive wire? Wouldn't that make it so we could flip a switch for driving lights when we want them and the turning lights would still work when the driving lights are off. This way there is no back flow of positive voltage.

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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby chefkev121 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 1:23 pm

Ok so I finally bit the bullet I wasn't 100%sure that these were the relays in question but it turns out that they are I hope this picture helps anyone that might be confused like myself.. And don't forget there is one for each side so you need to unwrap both wiring bundles and cut both green wires they have a white dot on them.
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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby Snowmoer » Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:38 pm

On my 88 there is a relay on each side in the same place as the above photo for these lamps. Not sure when Honda started putting the relays together. Just a FYI

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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby jenagle » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:45 am

Now I'm no genius by any means but why can't we put in LED bulbs in the turning lights and connect two positive wires to turn them on using diodes on each positive wire? Wouldn't that make it so we could flip a switch for driving lights when we want them and the turning lights would still work when the driving lights are off. This way there is no back flow of positive voltage.

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Why not just put a dpst switch in line with the ground (green) wires that you cut for running lights? This would give you the double option without any fancy wiring.

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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby a@r » Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:15 pm

I have bought all the parts to change my headlamps and corning lamps to leds. I was thinking about this, tell me if it will work or not. On the corning lamps can these be wired to the switches box that mounts on the brake fluid resv. This way the corning lamps can be turned on full time or off and only work as designed. Not sure if this will work with the switch since this is the ground side we are cutting. In doing this I think you would have to use 2 of the 3 switches one for each side and maybe have to add some wiring from the switch. I just cannot bring myself to cut the wires and leave them like that Thanks for any input.

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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby bstig60 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:33 pm

There is a wiring diagram someone put forward that allows them to be used for both running lights and cornering lights. I think it was one of my posts. I will see if I can find it and post a link here.
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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby jenagle » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:34 pm

The ground side will work just as well as the power side, since you have to have a full circuit for current to flow. If using the switch panel, two switches will need to be used, since they are single pole switches. The ground wires to the lights need to be isolated from one another by separate switches or diodes so that they don't cross feed each other. This is why a double pole switch is preferred, since it's like two single switches that are ganged together.

This is sort of like a valve on a hose. It can be at either end, and will still control the flow of water.

The 50 watt diode replacement bulbs are advertised as only drawing the same current as 8 watt bulbs, so any switch should be able to handle the current load.

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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby chefkev121 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:30 am

"Why not just put a dpst switch in line with the ground "


I think that is a good idea I'm going to wire mine this way over the weekend thanks for the tip
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Re: cornering light conversion

Postby a@r » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:14 pm

Been wanting to change the way my other lights are wired and switched. this just gives me an excuse to add a another switch with some chrome. thanks for the help guys. when I get it all done I will post some pics before and after.

Thanks again




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