Keep On Cranking! Help!!


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Keep On Cranking! Help!!

Postby smack67 » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:21 pm



Hey guys, I have a 98 aspy and when I got home from work today and put the side-stand down the engine killed like normal but the starter was cranking. The engine wouldn't start cause of the ss but I could not get the starter to stop no matter what I did.
1)I brought it in the garage and disconnected the battery, reconnected the battery...still there!
2) tested and disconnected A relay by the batt box that tested fine.
3) B relay (by the shifter) tested 0 ohms (grounding through the starter?) on both sides when connected to the harness, but was open when i removed it, could it have released when I was jiggling it around?



I've still got season left I need to ride.



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Re: Keep On Cranking! Help!!

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:51 am

Yup.you could also have temporarily fixed it by rapping on each solenoid with the butt end of a screwdriver.Contacts can stick/weld shut.just breaking the nut loose may have been enough to free the inside.
I do recommend replacing both of them.

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Re: Keep On Cranking! Help!!

Postby wingpilot08 » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:43 am

virgilmobile wrote:Yup.you could also have temporarily fixed it by rapping on each solenoid with the butt end of a screwdriver.Contacts can stick/weld shut.just breaking the nut loose may have been enough to free the inside.
I do recommend replacing both of them.


Had the same issue with mine..Would remove the side cover and rap the solenoid with my pocket knife (closed blade of course). When you do decide to replace it...DO NOT purchase the cheap Chinese solenoids or you will be replacing them again very shortly!! Honda OEM may cost more..but will give you a better solenoid!
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Re: Keep On Cranking! Help!!

Postby SidAbma » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:32 pm

Where is that relay, and what does it look like? I am having that problem but cannot find the relay.
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Re: Keep On Cranking! Help!!

Postby wingpilot08 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:51 pm

SidAbma wrote:Where is that relay, and what does it look like? I am having that problem but cannot find the relay.
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Remove the right side cover, just to the right side of the battery is the relay...sorry my picture is not the best..still working on my bike..But give that a rap with the back of the screwdriver or the butt of a pocketknife
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Re: Keep On Cranking! Help!!

Postby SidAbma » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:30 pm

Thank You Wing Pilot!
It's so simple when you know what your looking for.
I should be ordering from Honda both the Green and Red ~ whatever they are ~ relays?

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Re: Keep On Cranking! Help!!

Postby wingpilot08 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:37 pm

SidAbma wrote:Thank You Wing Pilot!
It's so simple when you know what your looking for.
I should be ordering from Honda both the Green and Red ~ whatever they are ~ relays?

That are actually solenoids..I only had to replace the frone one..
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Re: Keep On Cranking! Help!!

Postby SidAbma » Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:50 pm

Hi Wing Pilot
Front Being the Red half?

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Re: Keep On Cranking! Help!!

Postby ct1500 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:42 pm

SidAbma wrote:Thank You Wing Pilot!
It's so simple when you know what your looking for.
I should be ordering from Honda both the Green and Red ~ whatever they are ~ relays?


Yes, a relay as Honda refers to it as starter relay A and get the whole unit including fuse holder in case yours is showing signs of melt down, fig. 12 in fiche. A true starter solenoid is an electro-mechanical device that is part of a starter.

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Re: Keep On Cranking! Help!!

Postby wingpilot08 » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:40 am

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This is what the starter solenoid looks like...it the whole unit that will be removed and then connected in...on the link it is item:
12 35850-MK3-671 SWITCH ASSY.
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Re: Keep On Cranking! Help!!

Postby Matt.palomino.LN4 » Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:58 pm

Had same problem and electrician firned of mine said it was either starter solenoid welded shut or faulty battery. The battery would not hold a charge whilst connected to the bike. OK off it. Replaced solenoid and battery and problem solved. However Starter solenoid is cheaper to replace than battery(after market). :)




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