GL1500 GAUGE CLUSTER REPLACEMENT - OD ROLLBACK


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GL1500 GAUGE CLUSTER REPLACEMENT - OD ROLLBACK

Postby thesendeks » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:43 pm



I bought a replacement gauge cluster for my 1994 gl1500 SE. The old cluster had the LCD bleeding issue as described in other posts.
I would like to just put the entire new cluster in as it is in KM and the old one is in MPH and i would prefer KM.
The issue is my current Odometer reads 54,000 Miles the replacement reads 167,000, km.
First is there any issue with replacing a cluster that has MPH with one with KM?
Second Is there a way to rollback the Odometer i bought to be a equal number of Km?

I realize the alternative is to just take the LCD out and replace that, thats my fallback if i cannot make the KM speedo work.



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Re: GL1500 GAUGE CLUSTER REPLACEMENT - OD ROLLBACK

Postby ka4yqi » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:01 pm

Would the speedometer drive gear down at the wheel be the same as a mph or km? I have did it on a few old bike but never tryed a goldwing.

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Re: GL1500 GAUGE CLUSTER REPLACEMENT - OD ROLLBACK

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:00 pm

You can very easily just remove the LCD out of the replacement cluster and put it into your old one, leaving your old tach and speedo in place. Have a look at How to replace your dash lights with LEDs for the procedure.

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Re: GL1500 GAUGE CLUSTER REPLACEMENT - OD ROLLBACK

Postby redial » Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:07 pm

Wheels go round and round, regardless of whether you record in MPH or Km/h. The gearing inside the speedo should work just the same, going a bit faster for KM.

As for getting the odometer reading near enough, you can just get a Dymo tape printer, and print a label to indicate that the true calibrated reading for the distance should be XXX XXX Km. When you make the label, stick it out of the sun, as it will get hot and make the number disappear.

Of course, you could always use your electric drill, and wind the odometer on to the desired numbers. If the donor panel is in excess of yours, you might have to go the 'long way' round.

Another alternative, would be to take it to an Instrument Fitter, as they usually have the expertise to do this for you ($$$). Which one is up to you.
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Re: GL1500 GAUGE CLUSTER REPLACEMENT - OD ROLLBACK

Postby CWJ73 » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:15 pm

This is a very interesting question, as it brings with is some legal implications. I had some thoughts on this but I was not 100% sure so I went and asked the experts in our Auto Theft Unit, and here is a summary of what I was told.

Basically if you never plan to sell the bike and will only ever use it yourself you are golden. You are the only one impacted by a potential roll-back or swapping of the odometer. BUT if you ever decide to sell the bike with a swapped out or rolled back odometer then that is where you can run into problems. What is boils down to is 'Full, Fair and Frank Disclosure' If you are open and up front about what you have done with the odometer swap and/or roll back you are fine. If you are not and the buyer discovers this then you are screwed. They told me there are a couple ways around this. First you can take a photo of the bike with the old instrument cluster in place with the current, accurate reading. Second you could take the bike to a specialist who can confirm and then provide a legal certificate showing the milage at the time of the cluster swap/odometer rollback. Third you could write 'unknown' for the milage on a future bill of sale and then fully answer all the questions that would result from an 'unknown' milage. It's not something that I ever thought about, but they said it happens quite a bit when vehicles and bikes are rebuilt and the instrument cluster is swapped out. The big thing is to be open and honest and give full disclosure if you ever sell the bike in the future...

At least this is what you can expect in Canada... Alberta at least...
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Re: GL1500 GAUGE CLUSTER REPLACEMENT - OD ROLLBACK

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:22 pm

Every jurisdiction is different. Here's a site that purports to show the different requirements for different US states:

http://www.dmv.org/odometer-disclosure-statement.php

I know here in Ohio, when transferring a vehicle, you just need to state on the back of the title that the odometer is not accurate:





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