1500 Timing Belts


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1500 Timing Belts

Postby hap2 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:45 am



What are the signs / symptoms that indicate timing belts on a 1500 need changing? I had one with 124,000 miles & was told that because it idled so smoothly, they didn't need changing.

And then about how long does it take to change them...IF, indeed, they need changing?

Also is $5500 CAD (4400 USD) a good price for a 92 1500SE with only 50,000 miles on it (& a trailer hitch)?



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Re: 1500 Timing Belts

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:29 pm

I get my belts from NAPA.There branded "Gates".
I put on a new set when I purchase a used bike and then every other rear wheel change or 3 years.
With basic skills and reading the "how to" section,I suspect replacing them may take a few hours.Always double check before you crank it up.
Timing belts look and sound OK right up to the time they break and damage the engine.Personally I don't chance it
I spend more time cleaning the bike than it takes to slip on a new set.
The price is fair,but be aware of the cost of tires,battery,belts and all the fluid change that is usually needed.I seldom get away for less than $500 in material getting a used bike back up to its best condition.

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Re: 1500 Timing Belts

Postby Mh434 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:30 pm

In Canada, that's a pretty good price, on the low side of normal range - especially considering it's an SE.

As for the timing belts, virgilmobile nailed it. There ARE no symptoms of about-to-fail belts. They're either 100%, or they're 0%...and when they go to 0%, they do so in an instant, basically totally destroying the engine in a single revolution.

The two primary reasons for failure are a) extreme high mileage (not an issue with the bike you're looking at) and, b) the passage of time. Belts break down in oxygen. It's slow, but inexorable. That's why, although Honda recommends checking them at 100,000 miles, they ALSO recommend checking them every 10 years. Yours passed the 10-year time constraint 13 years ago, so...it's time.

I just changed my belts a couple of weeks ago on my '97 SE. I took days to do it, but only because I did all 3 of the air filters, oil & filter, plugs, installed LED driving lights, etc. all at the same time (basically, I had the bike stripped to the engine & frame from the saddlebags forward).

The belts themselves probably only took a couple of hours, total, to do, and only took that long because I'm realllly anal about this kind of stuff. The belts are CHEAP, and fantastic insurance. The peace of mind, knowing that you'll probably never need to change them again as long as you own the bike, is very reassuring.

Consider this - about the ONLY things that can kill a GW engine are: 1) running it without any oil; 2) running it without any coolant; and, 3) timing belt failure. I'm sure you would never do #1 or #2, so change the belts and #3 won't happen.

I bought the proper Gates T-275 belts (both belts are the same part number) from Amazon.ca, and they were very reasonable (around $21 CDN each). They arrived at my door less than a week later.

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Re: 1500 Timing Belts

Postby hap2 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:44 pm

I appreciate all the great information & suggestions.

Thank you VERY much.

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Re: 1500 Timing Belts

Postby dingdong » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:18 am

Also keep in mind that you can't inspect the belts to determine that they are good. The old belts usually look brand new. Change them to be safe.
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Re: 1500 Timing Belts

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:23 am

It you haven't read through How to remove and replace your timing belts yet, you might want to have a look - at least read through the top section, which explains a lot of this.

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Re: 1500 Timing Belts

Postby hap2 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:46 am

Thank you again. I appreciate it.

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Re: 1500 Timing Belts

Postby Mh434 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:01 pm

dingdong wrote:Also keep in mind that you can't inspect the belts to determine that they are good. The old belts usually look brand new. Change them to be safe.

Yup - it's interesting that Mother Honda states the belts should be "inspected" at 100K miles, as there's pretty much nothing to see. They look normal...up to the instant they break.. I'm thinking Honda's suggestion is a tongue-in-cheek way of saying you should just replace them at that mileage, but were afraid to actually come out and say it. Probably worried about litigation :roll:

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Re: 1500 Timing Belts

Postby mark5173 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:22 pm

change my timing belt tensioners last night took about 2 hours and 10 minutes got the belts from Napa had them later the same dayhad to order the tensioners from honda took 7 days bought the bike two weeks ago a 99 1500 with a hundred and sixty six thousand miles on it with no records so I figured I may as well change them Wale it runs good. change the water pump today it took about an hour it was making a little squeak noise at idle now I'm ready for vacation.




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