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1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby FM-USA » Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:15 am



Has anyone tuned there 1500 for GooGs of high fuel mileage?
What did it take?


(these usual's not included)
Narrow tires
Connected via rope to a truck
HIGH tire pressure
Sewing machine oil in the crankcase
SUCKING draft to anything
Hard tire compound
Always going downhill in neutral with engine off
Hoisting a sail
pushing your bike while tank is MT


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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby robb » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:29 am

Sounds like a trick question so what are you getting. All that power comes at a cost until one learns to relax the wrist.

My 89 runs 42 psi in tires, has the tallest shield to be had and all synthetic fluids. Carbs have never been touched and it gets 44 riding 2 up. Running 100% real gas get as high as 50. Play days I'm at 38.

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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby FM-USA » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:34 am

2-UP I get 38-42 with eth-garbage-anol and 44-52 with Regular.
Tall shield here also.
Was just curious if anyone had a trick or few to squeeze a little more out of it.
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby robb » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:11 am

Spent more than $1000 to lower rpm by 400. Running 10% still 40's general riding but did get 51 on a 900 mile trip last September. Not a lot of riding since last stroke and can tell what results after 5k.

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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby FM-USA » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:17 am

I have the Austone on the rear and front Battlax (both 44psi), RPM's and odometer (.049 slower) are both lower.

Sounds like my Wing is as fuel efficient as it's going to be mechanically.
Looks like cheating the wind is the next step.
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby robb » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:49 am

Battax on front at 42 psi and 195/75-16 Michelin on rear at 50 psi. Got most of the parts needed for a 4 wheel conversion. After riding a Hannigan 4 wheel GL1800 I'm sold but no kit for 1500. Going with 20's on the road.

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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby FM-USA » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:57 am

robb wrote:Battax on front at 42 psi and 195/75-16 Michelin on rear at 50 psi. Got most of the parts needed for a 4 wheel conversion. After riding a Hannigan 4 wheel GL1800 I'm sold but no kit for 1500. Going with 20's on the road.


???
4 wheel motorcycle gets a car plate?
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby redial » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:56 pm

In my local area, if you sit astride it, you are on a motorcycle!
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby 702scottc » Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:11 pm

Looks like most of you get pretty decent mileage. I get 165 miles before the low fuel light shines in town. It gets low 30's pretty consistantly running 70-75 mph. What speeds are you running to get those high numbers?

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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby FM-USA » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:34 am

My 51.88 (twice) was 2-UP and cruise'n country back roads... 45 to low 50's on Regular gas.
Different day, same roads and about the same speeds on eth-garbage-anol about 42-44.

As per my Avatar. Only wished there were (at least) moll-hills to enjoy. Roads are mostly s.w. Wisconsin.
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby 702scottc » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:02 am

FM-USA wrote:My 51.88 (twice) was 2-UP and cruise'n country back roads... 45 to low 50's on Regular gas.
Different day, same roads and about the same speeds on eth-garbage-anol about 42-44.

As per my Avatar. Only wished there were (at least) moll-hills to enjoy. Roads are mostly s.w. Wisconsin.



That's about what I thought. Mine gets better mileage on 2 lanes at around 55 mph. Aren't any fun 2 lanes close to where I live, have to ride 150 miles in any direction to get to one... No one sells gasoline in California or Nevada that I know of that isn't blended with ethanol. Haven't seen unblended fuel in Utah either. I've ridden cross country twice and it was all blended, bike doesn't seem to care.

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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby robb » Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:11 pm

robb wrote:4 wheel motorcycle gets a car plate?


Still a motorcycle, just on steroids. Still set on top, not inside. After 4 strokes I'm not ready to give up the Wing but want to be assured it will not drop.
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby FM-USA » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:46 pm

702scottc wrote:
FM-USA wrote:My 51.88 (twice) was 2-UP and cruise'n country back roads... 45 to low 50's on Regular gas. Different day, same roads and about the same speeds on eth-garbage-anol about 42-44.
As per my Avatar. Only wished there were (at least) moll-hills to enjoy. Roads are mostly s.w. Wisconsin.


That's about what I thought. Mine gets better mileage on 2 lanes at around 55 mph. Aren't any fun 2 lanes close to where I live, have to ride 150 miles in any direction to get to one... No one sells gasoline in California or Nevada that I know of that isn't blended with ethanol. Haven't seen unblended fuel in Utah either. I've ridden cross country twice and it was all blended, bike doesn't seem to care.

Try finding Reg. Gas in your area here...
http://www.buyrealgas.com/

ALSO, if you ask that station they may know of others that carry Reg. Gas.
Then email the info to that site and they will update there map to help spread the word.
In Wis. I got a few stations listed on that map. ;)
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby Bob Myers » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:32 pm

I'd be tickled to death to see that sort of mileage. Best on the sidecar rig is 32mpg, best on the 93 Interstate is 36mpg
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby FM-USA » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:09 am

Bob Myers wrote:I'd be tickled to death to see that sort of mileage. Best on the sidecar rig is 32mpg, best on the 93 Interstate is 36mpg

Whenever I'm in hill country, like Kentucky, I get even higher fuel mileage.
I'm usually in neutral (clutch in) going down hill. If it's a huge hill I'll shut off the bike via kill switch and coast. Mid 60's to upper 70's mpg was attainable on some hilly trips.
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It's great bikes don't have power assist brakes otherwise it be rather unsafe to coast with the motor off.
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby robb » Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:01 am

As good as mine gets I don't do neutral on big hills. Many trips across Black Mountain in North Carolina and on one occasion we all got a wild hair and bet who could roll to bottom of hill in neutral. Speeds of 100 were met very fast and shortly after lot more breaking was needed than bike actually has. Three 1800's and two 1500's, were all back in gear within a mile going down. I'll swap off a few miles in order to preserve the brakes any day.

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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby Bob Myers » Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:21 am

robb wrote:As good as mine gets I don't do neutral on big hills. Many trips across Black Mountain in North Carolina and on one occasion we all got a wild hair and bet who could roll to bottom of hill in neutral. Speeds of 100 were met very fast and shortly after lot more breaking was needed than bike actually has. Three 1800's and two 1500's, were all back in gear within a mile going down. I'll swap off a few miles in order to preserve the brakes any day.

I lost the driveshaft on my 18 wheeler on Black Mountain back in '79, about halfway betweeen the top and the runoff ramp. I was highly excited when I cleared the Old Fort ramp with brakes on fire. Drove through there for 12 years after that, never ever brought 48,000 off that hill again, I'd go around, through Mt Airy to get to Durham from Lexington.
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby robb » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:54 am

Bob Myers wrote:I lost the driveshaft on my 18 wheeler on Black Mountain back in '79, about halfway betweeen the top and the runoff ramp. I was highly excited when I cleared the Old Fort ramp with brakes on fire. Drove through there for 12 years after that, never ever brought 48,000 off that hill again, I'd go around, through Mt Airy to get to Durham from Lexington.


Pulled a 13,500 pound 5th wheel RV up the hill going to Gatlinburg, TN. My Ford Dually, a non turbo 5 speed with 513 rear gear, struggled to maintain 30 to top the hill. Coming hone took 26 to Spartanburg SC then caught 85 to avoid coming down the hill. Seen a few runaways in the sand and don't want to be next.

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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby Mh434 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:30 pm

Short of pulling the 'Wing on a trailer, I think the most effective method of maximizing mileage with a GL1500 is to reduce speed to the 55mph/90 km/h range. From the many, many threads I've read on this topic, this speed seems to universally equated with good fuel mileage.

Here on Vancouver Island, with rare exceptions, the maximum speed limit is 90 km/h (55 mph). My '97 GL1500SE gets consistently good mileage (some have reported even higher, in other places), even when I got bad gas & had some rough running for a while. Bump your speed to 70-75 mp/h, and mileage will suffer dramatically. That's the price we pay for riding 2-wheeled motorhomes - there's a LOT of frontal area to push through the wind. Remember - to double your speed, you use eight times the power, and power costs fuel.

Aside from removing mirrors and other sources of parasitic drag (which would have a small but noticeable effect - not to mention drawing the attention of law enforcement!), there is little you can do to make a substantive improvement in fuel mileage...except to run at a lower speed...

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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby redial » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:45 am

There is a road in Oz, but only one that I can think of, where it is a highway (2-lanes), that has had the speed limits removed. Every time I travel on it, I only like to travel at around 100-110 Km/h (about 60-70MPH). I have yet to do it on a motorcycle, but it is not a friendly road for motorcycles because of the road trains (a tractor, plus (three trailers) or (two trailers plus a B-double) - a B-double is like one and a half trailers. The wind pockets are difficult to manage on a motorcycle when one goes past, and these are travelling at least 110 Km/h.
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby Uncle Fester » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:46 am

I took a nice trip up to Wichita Ks from Oklahoma City Ok a weekend or two ago, average speed of 75-80mph, head wind of about 5-10mph on way up, Tulsa +4 windscreen and 10% crapfuel, got over all average of 35mpg. . . .I guess thats not too bad.
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby Bob Myers » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:35 am

I'm not saying it cannot be done, but,,, I would love to ride alongside(behind) some of these folks who are claiming 40+mpg, and fuel when they do,etc. One of us might be calculating wrong
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby Uncle Fester » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:58 am

Maybe I was taught wrong, but I was taught

Miles driven devided by gallons used,

so as a example :

1000 miles driven
devided by
25 gallons used
equals
40 Miles Per Gallon

Correct ? :D
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby redial » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:53 pm

Yes, you are correct. But then there are gallons, and Imperial gallons. The US gallon is based on 16 ounces equals 1 pint. The Imperial Gallon is based on 20 ounces equals 1 pint. 1 Imp gallon of water weighs 10 pounds, but 1 US gallon of water weighs less!

This is one of the good reasons to standardise on litres and the other Standards, so that we can measure all the same.
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Re: 1500 Tuned for MPG?

Postby FM-USA » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:45 pm

We all have experiences, many good and hopefully a whole lot less that were bad.
But when I say it happened to me,... it happened.

If someone calls me out on something, that other person really needs to look into them self and ask themselves, "Does it show that I (meaning you) lie?"
Go look in the mirror and ask that of yourself.... look really deep into your own soul, be honest with yourself... am I (meaning you) truthful?
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