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GL1500 speakers

Postby Revrant » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:30 pm



I have an 88 GL1500, the right speaker was blown out when I got it, the left one sounds awful, I thought I could just buy some five inch speakers but neither pair I bought fit, so I'm in a bind, what am I doing here? Is there a bracket or something I can buy, do I have to drill my goldwing? Is there a certain shape? What is the issue here?



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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:34 pm

Revrant wrote:I have an 88 GL1500, the right speaker was blown out when I got it, the left one sounds awful, I thought I could just buy some five inch speakers but neither pair I bought fit, so I'm in a bind, what am I doing here? Is there a bracket or something I can buy, do I have to drill my goldwing? Is there a certain shape? What is the issue here?


Polk DB501 speakers will fit (and they are weatherproof) with very minor modifications. They are also a good upgrade in sound quality.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Revrant » Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:55 pm

Sadly cutting it open and fitting washers is a bit extreme for me, I just sent those exact models back today.

I guess I'll have to just give up on them.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby firey1 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:34 pm

I maybe wrong but the front speakers are 4 1/2 inch and 4 inch for the back

http://www.ebay.com/itm/30-Watt-Replace ... 59&vxp=mtr

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Revrant » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:49 pm

firey1 wrote:I maybe wrong but the front speakers are 4 1/2 inch and 4 inch for the back

http://www.ebay.com/itm/30-Watt-Replace ... 59&vxp=mtr



They are, but they're irregular, for no reason on Earth.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Mag » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:07 pm

Us 88ers are coming outa the woodwork. Are you talking front or back? I bought one of those "Big Bike Parts" rear speaker replacement kits, did not have to do a mods, though I wish I had the waterproofs since I live in a rainy state.

I have not replaced the fronts yet.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Revrant » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:28 pm

Mag wrote:Us 88ers are coming outa the woodwork. Are you talking front or back? I bought one of those "Big Bike Parts" rear speaker replacement kits, did not have to do a mods, though I wish I had the waterproofs since I live in a rainy state.

I have not replaced the fronts yet.


Sadly it was 88ers misleading me on Amazon that lead to me wasting my money, and the front speakers. I'm not willing to risk mangling the bike because no one here will touch it.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby RBGERSON » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:48 am

I thought these fit.. Polk Audio DB401 4-Inch Pair Coaxial Speakers w/o mods?? but I haven't changed mine yet..
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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Revrant » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:51 am

Nope, you have to cut the slots, and probably use some washers, there were other suggested things but those are probably optional, and I would if there was a bike place willing to fix my potential screw up, but I'm out to sea in this area.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby RBGERSON » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:58 am

read here may help

viewtopic.php?t=16789
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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Revrant » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:04 am

RBGERSON wrote:read here may help

viewtopic.php?t=16789


No, but I'm wondering if bigger speakers still in the 4 ohms range would fit the slot and the screws, since they're irregular.

Or are they just purposely made too wide to keep you from using aftermarket parts?

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby spiralout » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:44 am

I installed the Kenwoods linked in this post with no cutting plastic. Any aftermarket replacements are going to need the screw slots modified a little. No need to "risk mangling" your bike to nip out a little metal on a speaker frame and even then, a bike shop would be the last place I'd let touch any plastic on mine. If you're unwilling to do a little mod to a speaker frame to install better sounding aftermarket speakers then your solution has already been given, buy a set of crappy, overpriced replacements made specifically for the 1500 and really waste your money and time.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Revrant » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:04 am

spiralout wrote:I installed the Kenwoods linked in this post with no cutting plastic. Any aftermarket replacements are going to need the screw slots modified a little. No need to "risk mangling" your bike to nip out a little metal on a speaker frame and even then, a bike shop would be the last place I'd let touch any plastic on mine. If you're unwilling to do a little mod to a speaker frame to install better sounding aftermarket speakers then your solution has already been given, buy a set of crappy, overpriced replacements made specifically for the 1500 and really waste your money and time.


It's unfortunate that Honda designed it this way, but it may be that surgery or nothing are my options.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Revrant » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:02 pm



I may commit to surgery with the 6 inch speakers, but I'd never waste money on those.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Mh434 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:03 pm

It's unfortunate that you sent the Polk Audio speakers back. They seem to be the most-recommended speakers there are for the Goldwing. I've only replaced the rears in my bike (with Polk DB-401's), but the difference is very noticeable, and they're not only waterproof, but submersible without damage, as they're designed for a true marine environment (think about this the next time you wash your bike!). Really, the fitting required for the DB-501's in the front is pretty minor, and you only need to do it once, as the speakers will probably live as long as the bike.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Revrant » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:21 pm

Mh434 wrote:It's unfortunate that you sent the Polk Audio speakers back. They seem to be the most-recommended speakers there are for the Goldwing. I've only replaced the rears in my bike (with Polk DB-401's), but the difference is very noticeable, and they're not only waterproof, but submersible without damage, as they're designed for a true marine environment (think about this the next time you wash your bike!). Really, the fitting required for the DB-501's in the front is pretty minor, and you only need to do it once, as the speakers will probably live as long as the bike.


Cutting metal is sadly not minor, but if I have to these 6 inchers will sound great anyway.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Mh434 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:35 pm

Sorry - I sometimes forget others don't have specialist tools like tinsnips and the like. I do a lot of metal work (machining, fabrication, welding, etc.) so, to me, trimming the ends of speaker slots is not any kind of chore. Heck, lots of parts on my bike were fabricated on my metal lathe.

Anyway, lots of luck on your search.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Happytrails » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:48 pm

Dremel with cutoff wheel makes good weapon for speakers too. Do what you comfortable with of course :D Polk seems to be the favorite for replacing OEM but it always fun to see others get creative and think outside a box.
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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:41 pm

I have a '97, and also used the Polk 501's. I don't know if an '88 is the same design, but if it is, the mod to the speaker is about as minor as can be done to anything on these bikes. As I recall, it is nothing more than extending the speaker mount slots to the outside edge of the speaker frame. Really, really simple. The washers are doable by anyone. I think you may be cutting yourself a little short, by fearing this job. The removal of the plastic to replace them with anything, is more difficult than the actual speaker modification. Tin snips, 5 minutes, and the mod is done.

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Revrant » Sat Apr 11, 2015 6:53 pm

Well I used a black and decker rotary tool and got them installed, used a pair of pliers to bend the connections to fit the slimmer prongs on the speakers, it sounds fantastic on the radio but my Philips cassette to 3.5 I used with my phone is only putting out to one speaker.

Thoughts?

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby spiralout » Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:46 pm

Good deal :!: :!:
Not nearly as bad as you thought it'd be, huh? What speakers did you end up installing? And pics :?: Everyone loves pictures.
As far as you only getting one channel from the phone and cassette adapter, idk, I use a soldered aux input. You said one speaker was blown when you got it. Did you have any output on that channel before, with radio or cassette? I guess it could be a broken wire in your cassette adapter?

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Revrant » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:47 pm

spiralout wrote:Good deal :!: :!:
Not nearly as bad as you thought it'd be, huh? What speakers did you end up installing? And pics :?: Everyone loves pictures.
As far as you only getting one channel from the phone and cassette adapter, idk, I use a soldered aux input. You said one speaker was blown when you got it. Did you have any output on that channel before, with radio or cassette? I guess it could be a broken wire in your cassette adapter?


Oh much worse, very fussy, the bit popped out of the dremel chuck, barely recovered it from the innards of the motorcycle, and I had never used a rotary tool so it was not the best learning experience seeing as how delicate 80s plastic can be, I got the 5 inch Polk like I said, though part of me now wonders why I didn't just cut the hole bigger and go with the 6 inch since they fit the holes so nicely. I've considered a soldered aux input, I saw a video on that, I'm more comfortable with electronics than I am cutting and grinding, and like I said it sounds great on radio, but I know the best sound comes from the phone, I examined the cable and it looks like this cheap cabling is frayed at the case where I can't cut it and do a new connection, so I've ordered a new one.

Pictures, sure.



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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:59 pm

I'm surprised you had to cut any plastic. Mine slipped right in with the only modification being the mounting slots on the speakers.

I use the same cassette adapter, only with an MP3 player. I've never tried my phone. The only problems I can think of, other than an issue with the bike cassette player would be:
1) Plug is not fully inserted into the phone jack (easy to do with all the connection points in the jack)
2) Phone jack pin configuration is not compatible with the cassette pin plug (Telephone phone plugs are configured for many different uses, including remotes and credit card scanners. Different from audio connections)
3) The cassette direction selector on the bike is set to the wrong direction (heads misaligned)
4) Defective cassette adapter

You might try a more standard source like an MP3 or Walkman cassette player, that is known to have output on both channels through headphones.

EDIT: I just realized that I am using a different adapter. I have a Phillips, but didn't like the flimsy nature of the cable you described. I am using a "Monster" adapter. Much beefier cable. 2 years now, with no issues.

http://www.amazon.com/Monster-iCarPlay- ... te+adapter

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Re: GL1500 speakers

Postby Revrant » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:16 pm

Bluewaterhooker0 wrote:I'm surprised you had to cut any plastic. Mine slipped right in with the only modification being the mounting slots on the speakers.

I use the same cassette adapter, only with an MP3 player. I've never tried my phone. The only problems I can think of, other than an issue with the bike cassette player would be:
1) Plug is not fully inserted into the phone jack (easy to do with all the connection points in the jack)
2) Phone jack pin configuration is not compatible with the cassette pin plug (Telephone phone plugs are configured for many different uses, including remotes and credit card scanners. Different from audio connections)
3) The cassette direction selector on the bike is set to the wrong direction (heads misaligned)
4) Defective cassette adapter

You might try a more standard source like an MP3 or Walkman cassette player, that is known to have output on both channels through headphones.

EDIT: I just realized that I am using a different adapter. I have a Phillips, but didn't like the flimsy nature of the cable you described. I am using a "Monster" adapter. Much beefier cable. 2 years now, with no issues.

http://www.amazon.com/Monster-iCarPlay- ... te+adapter


You have to cut the slots for it to fit, but the Monster one has pretty negative reviews so I went with the top seller, seems rare these days that Monster makes anything great. The cable is definitely frayed, but the heads being misaligned is possible, I'll consider that if the new adapter fails me.




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