New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3


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New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Johnrmont » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:01 pm



Hi everyone .. A friend of mine went down to our local dealer and got the
latest and greatest from Dunlop the all new M-3' which will be used on all the new Gl1800's from here on out. Our dealer offered them to him with free installation for this month only (April) so I am going to do the same. Evidentially they are especially engineered for the "wet side of the mountains" and supposedly offer a superior grip in the rain and in other less then ideal road conditions. Amazingly enough (to me anyway) is that they are radials and come in a size for our 1500's. My friend said they ride excellent and is very happy with them! :roll:
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby cbx4evr » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:59 pm

Have a link to more info??? Google doesn't even know about it.
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Uncle Fester » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:58 pm

Agreed, more info needed, are these FRONT and REAR tires? Load rating ? We need more info ! :D
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Big Bob » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:51 am

Nothing on Dunlops web site?? Need more info.......... :shock:

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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby dingdong » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:05 am

The 1500s were designed for bias ply tires. Not for sure if a radial will run okay or not. Everything I have read says not to do this but probably mostly internet opinion oriented however. ????????
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby joeincalif » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:32 am

You should not put a radial tire on a rim designed for a bias tire and vise versa. I get a lot more miles from a bias tire on my 1500 wings than I got from a radial on my 1800 wing.
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Johnrmont » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:59 am

Sorry ... I really have no more information then what I posted already ... If I hadn't seen them mounted on his bike I might just be a "non-believer " too. :shock:
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby MikeB » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:19 am

Hi John, seeing as how I am on the "wet side" of the Cascades, I'd be interested to know more about these Dunlop tires. I'd also like to know who the dealer is.

Radial tires can be used on the GL1500. I believe Michelin made them for a while and they were sought out by GL1500 riders. But Michelin discontinued them due to some riders claiming instability of the bike when they were pulling a trailer. At least that is what I've been told. I don't know if it is true.

Those that I had them here on the "wet side" loved them and were sad to see them go. Personally, I prefer Avon tires.
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Johnrmont » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:20 pm

Hi Mike we're on the "dryer side" of the state Lake Chelan, in particular, the dealer my friend used is Wenatchee Motorsports (Yamaha Dealer) @ (509)665-6686. Current thinking is that they are the new replacement for the E3's which in the case of 1500's are a radial tire, not a bias ply tire like what I had on both my 1200"s - FYI. My friend says they are very much a great tire for confidence in the corners and over "tar snakes" ... We haven't had any rain here yet since he got them a couple of weeks ago. I talked to both my dealer whom I bought my current wing from and the dealer in Wenatchee and neither one of them have heard of them either and just for curiosity, he went into his shop and looked at the tires of a brand new 1800 they just setup and if memory serves me, he said they had on Bridgestones on it.
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Johnrmont » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:23 pm

Oh, FYI I will take a pix of both his tires just to prove I'm not loosing it like I have been told by my kids. He he he :lol:
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby truckindrummer » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:14 pm

Not sure about the M-3 but my dealer was able to get the OEM K177's for me last year and supposedly Dunlop is making these again after a long hiatus. I had E3's on it and absolutely hated them in the wet and didn't like the center wear-out either. I ended up buying a second set of 177's just so I'd have em if needed to replace one orboth should the need (hopefully won't) arise.
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby cbx4evr » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:46 pm

Johnrmont wrote:Oh, FYI I will take a pix of both his tires just to prove I'm not loosing it like I have been told by my kids. He he he :lol:


Ya you better because right now I'm sidin' with your kids.
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby a@r » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:03 pm

During my recent trip to Daytona, Dunlop has there tent set-up at the track. according to them there is nothing new for the 1500 in the next 2 years. The multi tread that is offered now is there latest and greatest but is for the rear only. They have nothing new for the front. This was bike week in march when I was told this.

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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Johnrmont » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:51 am

Ok here's the "official reply" I just got from Dunlop ... Hope that he's all of us to clarify these new tires!

Hi John,

We appreciate your contact and interest in Dunlop.

The tire is actually an Elite 3 model, sometime referred to as the "E3". The Honda GL1800's come with radial tires, the GL1500's and prior where all bias ply. We offer the Elite 3 Radial and the Elite 3 Bias.

Additionally, we are currently running a $50 rebate on the purchase of (2) Elite 3 tires prior to April 30th - see website for details.

http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/info-ce ... ate-event/

Hope this helps!

Regards,

Dave Johnson
Consumer Affairs, Motorcycle
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200 Innovation Way, Akron, OH 44316
phone. 330.796.3529
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Contact Email on Thu Apr 16 2015 19:18:01 GMT-0700 (PDT)
name: John R Montgomery
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email: Johnrmont@nwi.net
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city: Manson
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comments: Hi ... A friend of mine just bought a set of your M3 Radials for his Honda Gold Wing. I cannot find any information anywhere on them ... Not any local Honda dealer knows anything about them.
What's up with them?

Thanks

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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby MikeB » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:10 am

Thanks John. That sounds more like it. Maybe your friend just mis-spoke. When he was telling of the M-3 tire he must have meant E-3 tire. No problem. But, that $50 off sounds good.

Our Chapter will be giving away a set of tires for our Mystery Ride http://gwrra-waa.org/pdf/2015_Mystery_Ride_Flyer.pdf in July and this will certainly help to defray costs for us and our dealer in Tacoma.

Thanks for getting the info, John.
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby cbx4evr » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:08 pm

Your buddy probably had his head cranked and thought the "E" was an "M".
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Johnrmont » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:26 pm

All right you guys :x I actually saw his tires and they clearly say M3 on them ... The letter/number is almost 3" high ... Why would they stamp them with that when they are still going to be E3's? Heck if I know but next week I'm getting them installed on mine! :twisted:
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Johnrmont » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:18 pm

Well, here's a reply I got from Dunlop on the idea of replacing bias plies with radial tires onto a GL1500! Darn!

Not recommended!

Always replace with the original tire construction to insure the bike handles and performs as designed.

Regards,

Dave Johnson
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Dave sorry to bother you again but I have to ask: is the radial version ok to run on a Gl1500?

Thanks so much!

John

On Apr 17, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Gdtna Consumer Affairs <consumeraffairs@dunloptire.com> wrote:

Hi John,

We appreciate your contact and interest in Dunlop.

The tire is actually an Elite 3 model, sometime referred to as the "E3". The Honda GL1800's come with radial tires, the GL1500's and prior where all bias ply. We offer the Elite 3 Radial and the Elite 3 Bias.

Additionally, we are currently running a $50 rebate on the purchase of (2) Elite 3 tires prior to April 30th - see website for details.

http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/info-ce ... ate-event/

Hope this helps!

Regards,

Dave Johnson
Consumer Affairs, Motorcycle
Goodyear Dunlop Tires North America, Ltd.
200 Innovation Way, Akron, OH 44316
phone. 330.796.3529
david_johnson@goodyear.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: Johnrmont [mailto:johnrmont@nwi.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:18 PM
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Contact Email on Thu Apr 16 2015 19:18:01 GMT-0700 (PDT)
name: John R Montgomery
company:
job_title:
email: Johnrmont@nwi.net
address: 2901 lakeshore drive Bias
city: Manson
state: Washington
zip: 98831
phone: 509 670-7611
fax:
website:
interest: Retail
year_make_model: 1996 honda gold wind SEI
comments: Hi ... A friend of mine just bought a set of your M3 Radials for his Honda Gold Wing. I cannot find any information anywhere on them ... Not any local Honda dealer knows anything about them.
What's up with them?

Thanks

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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby spiralout » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:24 pm

Johnrmont wrote:All right you guys :x I actually saw his tires and they clearly say M3 on them ... The letter/number is almost 3" high ... Why would they stamp them with that when they are still going to be E3's? Heck if I know but next week I'm getting them installed on mine! :twisted:

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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:39 pm

Johnrmont wrote:Well, here's a reply I got from Dunlop on the idea of replacing bias plies with radial tires onto a GL1500! Darn!

Not recommended!

Always replace with the original tire construction to insure the bike handles and performs as designed.

Regards,

Dave Johnson


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Always replace with the original tire construction to insure the bike handles and performs as designed.

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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Johnrmont » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:00 pm

Well, I'm going to follow my friend's lead and go with the radials! He's sold on them and I trust his experience and judgement ... I feel like have just crossed into the "dark side" here ... "... Your mileage may vary..."
I can't believe any of the "dark side" converts haven't weighed in here... :?
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Fiberthree » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:33 pm

I think radials on the 1500 would be "The Gray Side" instead of Darkside.

I just put my 5th set of E3's on my '99. The last ones gave me over 21,000 miles. And in todays mail I got the $50 rebate!
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Johnrmont » Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:15 pm

Ok ... I just have to ask: did you go "grey" ie: Bias or truly "Darkside" with the new Radial version? :twisted: :lol: :twisted:
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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby spiralout » Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:21 pm

Still waiting on pics.... ;) ;)

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Re: New Gl1500 tire from Dunlop: M-3

Postby Johnrmont » Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:25 pm

Yeah, unfortunately I took my machine to the dealer I bought the bike from to change all the fluids since he had told me had done them but I found out he had t changed Any of them ... So I'm sticking it to his word! :cry:
Anyway, I'll scoot over to my friend's bike this afternoon and get a picture of it for you ... Thanks for the reminder. :|


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