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89 1500

Postby jbeganny » Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:25 pm



I installed a new (used) engine in my 89 1500 and now I am trying to get it started. When I crank it over the rear wheel turns (forward). I cannot seem to find neutral. I have tried to shift as if I were going through the gears in an effort to find neutral. What shall I do The reverse is not hooked up. Would that make a difference?



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Re: 89 1500

Postby robb » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:54 am

Reverse should not be a problem. Sounds like clutch problem, have you tried bleeding. Clutch must work to find neutral otherwise lever only changes gear.

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Re: 89 1500

Postby bstig60 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:36 pm

Could be the clutch needs bleeding out, but neutral is still there. You should be able to find it with the engine off.
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Re: 89 1500

Postby jbeganny » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:36 pm

I now believe that the clutch is the problem but I still need help. After further investigation I saw that the clutch was not even connected to the engine. I hooked the line up to what the book calls the slave cylinder and proceeded to bleed the clutch. All this time I had the clutch lever tied to the handlebars since the manual said to do this while replacing the engine. In any case, after bleeding the clutch I untied the lever and nothing happens when I untie the clutch lever. It takes barely any pressure to pull the lever. So what have I done wrong?

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Re: 89 1500

Postby bstig60 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:50 pm

You have air in the master cylinder and/or the line that runs from the master to the slave cylinder. Then I would bleed that out and then bleed the slave cylinder again.
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Re: 89 1500

Postby jbeganny » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:33 pm

I bled the line and the slave cylinder at the same time. Didn't I? If you are bleeding the master aren't you also bleeding the slave cylinder? If not, I don't understand.

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Re: 89 1500

Postby bstig60 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:46 pm

The master cylinder controls the slave cylinder, if you bled the slave cylinder without the master cylinder connected and with the clutch lever tied back, the line from the master cylinder to the slave cylinder still has air in it. When you connected the line between the cylinders and released the clutch lever you probably put more air into the slave cylinder. So you should bleed the system again with everything connected.
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Re: 89 1500

Postby jbeganny » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:14 pm

So, bleed the system again with everything connected and the clutch lever out or in? And thanks for all your help.

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Re: 89 1500

Postby jbeganny » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:23 pm

Hey bstig60. I noticed you have a 1999 1500. Any problems? I read somewhere that the 98 and 99 models were somehow not as good as the mid 90's. I am considering purchasing a 98 but if it's going to be a problem I may just look around a bit more. What do you think?

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Re: 89 1500

Postby bstig60 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:50 pm

jbeganny wrote:Hey bstig60. I noticed you have a 1999 1500. Any problems? I read somewhere that the 98 and 99 models were somehow not as good as the mid 90's. I am considering purchasing a 98 but if it's going to be a problem I may just look around a bit more. What do you think?

I have put a little more than 5000 miles on my bike since last September. No problems at all. The only thing I am aware of is the Alternators were being made in China from 96 on and the quality wasn't there, so there were some alternator failures. Other than that there isn't any appreciable difference between the 99 I have now and the 88 I recently sold.

jbeganny wrote:So, bleed the system again with everything connected and the clutch lever out or in? And thanks for all your help.
That is what I would do..... You will need to make sure the master cylinder is kept full of fluid while you bleed it.
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Re: 89 1500

Postby jbeganny » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:58 pm

Thanks about the 99. I am thinking that if the 98 I am looking at had a problem, it would have been fixed by now. Back to my original question. Bleed it with the clutch lever in or out?????

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Re: 89 1500

Postby bstig60 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:33 pm

You should bleed the clutch system similar to bleeding brakes. With the clutch master cylinder cover and diaphram removed and the fluid level topped off. Pump up the clutch lever until it is as firm as possible, with the clutch lever held in, open the bleed valve, when the clutch lever is as depressed as possible, close the bleed valve and repeat the process making sure to keep the master cylinder reservoir full of fluid. Repeat until you have a firm clutch lever.
In regard to the 98 or any 1500 you may buy, if the bike has sat without being riden for any period of time, change the timing belts. A little time and a small expense can prevent the loss of an engine......
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Re: 89 1500

Postby jbeganny » Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:35 pm

Thanks again. I bled the system and I now have a firm clutch and a neutral. Tomorrow I will try to start the engine. Do you happen to know how to drain the gas tank so I can put fresh fuel in it? I do not see a petcock like the older bikes have. If I must I will just siphon it out.

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Re: 89 1500

Postby bstig60 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:47 pm

It has a vacuum operated petcock located just in front of the fuel fill cap. The best way to get the fuel out without removing the tank and the fuel pump is to siphon it out. You are not going to get it all. I would suggest adding 1/2 a can of seafoam to a gallon or so of gas and what's left in the tank after you get as much as possible of the old fuel out and use this mixture to start the engine. Was there any sign of rust in the fuel tank? If so, it is best to pull the tank and clean it out.
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Re: 89 1500

Postby spiralout » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:27 am

You can use the fuel pump to pump it out, too. Disconnect the fuel line from the pump side of the filter. Remove the large connector from the ECU, under the right inner fairing cover, and insert a jumper wire between the terminals for the black/blue and black/white wires. When you turn the key on, the pump will run.




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