Is there a way to adjust . . .


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Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby Uncle Fester » Sun May 03, 2015 12:21 pm



I am curious , is there a way to adjust the clutch on these big beasts ? The other day my clutch lever went flat, with almost no resistance, against the hand grip. I bled the clutch master cylinder and it took care of MOST of the issue, but it stil goes much closer to the grip before the clutch disengages than I think it should, so. . . Can the clutch be adjusted, at either end, so it disengages a little sooner?


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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby virgilmobile » Sun May 03, 2015 1:37 pm

To my limited understanding, there is no adjustments on a hydraulic operated clutch.The hydraulic slave piston should maIntan zero lash.
Expect a air bubble somewhere in the system first...second is worn clutch parts..eg,lifter rod,llifter plate,lifter piece..etc...
My 1500 releases the clutch when the lever is about 3/4" off the grip.
You can also look for a worn pivot pin in the clutch lever or a bent lever itself.

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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby Mh434 » Sun May 03, 2015 4:37 pm

Sounds to me like it ingested a little air at the master cylinder end and, even after bleeding, there is probably a bubble left in there somewhere. It only takes a tiny bit to give you a mushy, ineffective clutch. Or, if there's a bit of crud in the system, a particle in the bottom of the master can cause the seals to leak, so fluid bypasses the pistons, giving the effect of pretty much no clutch at all. Bleeding might not clear this out.

And, as Virgilmobile advises, I don't think any adjustment of the hydraulic clutch is possible...so it either has to be air in the system, or a failing clutch master cylinder.

I'd be thinking about rebuilding the master, or at least dismounting it & cleaning it out (at that point, a rebuild would be recommended anyway, since you're in that far). Kits are pretty cheap (Amazon, for example, has full kits for $22), and rebuilding doesn't take long at all. The last one I did, I used an electric drill & a piece of 4-0 steel wool to polish the bore, then cleaned it with fresh brake fluid & installed the new parts. It was like brand new after that.

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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby seelyark1 » Sun May 03, 2015 7:14 pm

If you pull the clutch lever in and hold it, and the clutch stays disengaged, you don't need to rebuild. Re bleed and try to get the air out. :)
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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby bstig60 » Sun May 03, 2015 9:07 pm

Bleed the slave and master cylinder as a system. If you bled the master cylinder, there could still be air in the slave cylinder.
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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby Uncle Fester » Mon May 04, 2015 12:05 am

Thanks all, I will rebleed the whole system, and actually replace ALL the fluid in the system as I am willing to bet it is the original fluid. I will have to buy a pressure bleeder, but I have been needing one any way ! Lol

If bleeding does not fix the problem, a rebuild will be in the plans.
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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby Uncle Fester » Mon May 04, 2015 12:10 am

Oh, as a side note, my bike has Chrome aftermarket levers and ISO-GRIPS, could those items effect this problem ?
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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby bstig60 » Mon May 04, 2015 12:27 am

Can't see why they would...
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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby detdrbuzzard » Mon May 04, 2015 4:18 am

Uncle Fester wrote:Oh, as a side note, my bike has Chrome aftermarket levers and ISO-GRIPS, could those items effect this problem ?

not likely, I have iso grips and wide chrome levers on my 1500. I think the others are right in that you still have air in the system
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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby Uncle Fester » Fri May 08, 2015 11:15 pm

Well, a bit of a update, it was not air in the system, but a dying clutch, and it died all the way today. I was able to gimp her to my mechanics shop, and she will be getting a new clutch in the next few days, I should be back on the road by Tuesday or Wednesday.

And just to add some fun to my life, the trans went out in my van, so we have no wheels for the next few days. . . . . I LOVE MY LIFE ! NOT !
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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby Mh434 » Sat May 09, 2015 3:19 am

I can honestly say that's the first time I've heard of a clutch wearing out in a GL1500 (I'm sure it happens, but it seems it's rare).

One has to wonder if the master cylinder wasn't fully releasing the clutch (like, if grit in the system wasn't allowing the clutch to fully release - I saw that happen in a brand new Chevy a couple of years ago), causing it to wear prematurely?

Anyway, glad you found your problem, but sorry you've been plagued with issues! Sounds like you're having MY luck!!

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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby Uncle Fester » Sat May 09, 2015 10:12 am

My mechanic was not surprised when he learned I have 113K miles on the bike, so I guess it is not too unusual ? Anyway, she is getting a nice EBC clutch, new clutch cover gasket, a slave cylinder rebuild, and a oil change, so she should be a happy bike again soon. :D
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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby seelyark1 » Sun May 10, 2015 4:43 pm

I bet the mechanic is real happy. Did he offer you the old parts? 113,000 is just about broke in. If your bleeding made that much of a differience, it makes me wonder. For the heck of it, what did they charge? As you may see, I don't trust any of the repair shops. Seen too much crap over the years. ;)
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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby Uncle Fester » Sun May 10, 2015 5:37 pm

I get thebike back Tuesday evening, and can, if I want, get the old part back. For everything, parts and labor. . . . .$400.00 out the door.
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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby Uncle Fester » Wed May 13, 2015 10:20 am

I just got off the phone with my mechanic, and I will post pics of it later today or tomorrow, but if I understood him right, there is a rivited steel that came unrivited. . . . and that was a big part of my clutch issue.

Can anyone shed some light on what part he is referring to ?

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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby WingAdmin » Wed May 13, 2015 12:03 pm

There are rivets in some of the clutch plates, and if it is allowed to wear too much, these rivets can be sheared off. This is likely what he's talking about.

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Re: Is there a way to adjust . . .

Postby Uncle Fester » Wed May 13, 2015 6:50 pm

I got to the shop too late to get the pics today, so I will get them tomorrow. If you look at the link below, the bad part is / was #7.

The clutch discs where just short of smooth, so it was time either way.

http://www.hondaofrussellville.com/fich ... veh=132031


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