Fuel door lock failed


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Fuel door lock failed

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:15 am



I've written and read about this topic before...and yesterday it happened to me. I stopped for gas on my way home from work, and when I went to put my key in the fuel door lock, it wouldn't go in. I thought I was just not getting the angle right, so I gave it a shove...and in it went, but the lock would no longer work. I ended up having to pry the fuel door open to fill the gas. I then removed the lock from the door before closing it again (it's held in place from underneath with a spring clip).

The lock has a small, very thin spring-loaded dust door, to keep dust out of the lock's inner workings. This door corrodes over time until it gets so thin that it just fails - and when you push the key in, pieces of the dust door fall into the lock and jam it.

I've ordered a new lock/latch from Honda, and I'll get a locksmith to re-key it to match my ignition key when it arrives.



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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby NVSB4 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:36 am

Does this get added to the Common Goldwing Failures list?
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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:57 am

I don't know if it counts as common? Once after 15 years of service isn't really that common.

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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby joeincalif » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:58 am

I would not re key it. Use the key that comes with the lock get a black radio knob and make a key knob. That way you do not have to take the key out of the ignition to fuel the bike up. Since it is a different key it will not start the bike.
Put the spare key on the bike somewhere in case you lose one.
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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby creedfire » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:36 am

Same thing happened to me but luckily I was still in my garage. At first I thought one of my children put something in there (happened before) and broke something internal. After finding out that a locksmith would be expensive with hard to find parts, I poked around in there and found some small white pieces of plastic. Dug it out and now is fine. Glad you were able to get the door open and I like the knob idea!

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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby bellboy40 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:56 pm

I found that condition on my gas door also while in my shop. I was doing some work on it and went to open the gas door but the key wouldn't go all the way in. I got a pick and found some small pieces of white plastic down in the lock. I managed to get them out and it worked fine then. I went ahead and swapped that lock with the one on the right hand side storage compartment. The one that was on the storage lid still has the plastic over the key slot and hasn't been used nearly as much as the gas cap lid so I wanted it for my gas cap.

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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby Fiberthree » Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:14 pm

Mine failed in 2002 and all the locks were replaced under warranty. The dealer told me that they couldn't order just one. I only had 31000 miles on it. But I have noticed the little plastic part is again missing. Let us know how the re-key works.
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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby lamasue » Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:57 pm

so we all agree to add wd 40 all the locks on the bike as maintenance

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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby bellboy40 » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:33 am

I don't think using WD40 on the locks will help this situation. The problem seems to be the fragile piece of plastic that covers the key slot to keep dust out. It breaks after a while and little pieces of it get down in the lock and keep the key from opening it. I don't know what could be done to keep that from happening. It seems to be a weak spot.

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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:54 pm

lamasue wrote:so we all agree to add wd 40 all the locks on the bike as maintenance


WD-40 is not something you should spray into locks. WD-40 leaves an oily film, which attracts dust and grit, which will eventually foul and overwhelm the tiny springs and wafers inside a lock. Dry graphite lubricant is the best thing to spray into locks...but it won't help this issue, which is with the dust cover at the top of the lock.

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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby joeincalif » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:27 pm

joeincalif wrote:I would not re key it. Use the key that comes with the lock get a black radio knob and make a key knob. That way you do not have to take the key out of the ignition to fuel the bike up. Since it is a different key it will not start the bike.
Put the spare key on the bike somewhere in case you lose one.

with this key knob you never have to worry about the lock not working or stuff getting into the tumblers.
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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby dingdong » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:19 am

joeincalif wrote:
joeincalif wrote:I would not re key it. Use the key that comes with the lock get a black radio knob and make a key knob. That way you do not have to take the key out of the ignition to fuel the bike up. Since it is a different key it will not start the bike.
Put the spare key on the bike somewhere in case you lose one.

with this key knob you never have to worry about the lock not working or stuff getting into the tumblers.


I have done the same with my gas lock.
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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby Mh434 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:12 pm

Key? What key? :D



I got tired of pulling the key out of the ignition to fill up, open the door to access my garage door opener button, etc. The knob is removable, and the keyed portion is too short to operate the ignition or trunk lock, although it will operate the locking fairing compartment on the right side.

I made the knob out of T-6061 aluminum & a spare key, cut to fit into a machined recess in the bottom, and knurled it for grip when wearing gloves.

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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:39 am

So I thought I'd post an update:

I got the replacement lock, and took it to a locksmith to be re-keyed to match my other locks.

The verdict: It can't be done. The only way to open the lock is to remove the chrome ring around the top, and it has been peened in place. The chrome ring can be removed, but it would be destroyed in the process. Normally, motorcycle, auto and lock manufacturers make available these chrome rings to locksmiths, so that the lock can be opened, worked on, and then closed and sealed with a new chrome ring.

However, after the locksmith spent a week of looking, talking to other locksmiths, manufacturers, Honda, etc...the verdict is that the chrome ring for this lock is not available anywhere. There aren't even similar ones available that might work. So no re-keying of this lock.

I've ordered a knob, and I'm going to do the key-in-the-knob trick. I'll post some photos when it's done.

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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby Mh434 » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:47 am

Wow! Mother Honda made most things on the bike removable, but it looks like she dropped the ball on this one - must have thought they'd never fail...

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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby Breakdancer » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:09 pm

After 115,855 miles mine finally failed. That's a lot of opening of the door!! No complaints here but waiting for pics. so I can fix.. :D
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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby joeincalif » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:23 am

The key knob is a great idea. Once you do it you will wonder why it took so long to get it done!!
I have done it to not only to my wing but also to my Concours 1400, and my Kawasaki Nomad 1600 for the saddlebags. On both bikes you need the key to open the bags and cannot remove the key unless the bags are locked.
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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby diverobin » Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:17 pm

Sometimes I love the Internet, and I am so glad I found this site!
I very recently purchased a lovely 1981 GL 1100 I. This morning the lock on the fuel door would not work. Thanks to you guys I have just sorted the problem...prised the lid open...oddly the lock then worked again, after trying all day! ...then swapped the lock on the fairing bin for the fuel lid one, and all is well in my world. :D
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Re: Fuel door lock failed

Postby Breakdancer » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:49 pm

Welcome to the site diverobin. Yes, lots of good information here. And if you can't find an answer you can simply post a question and I'm sure one of the many Goldwing Gurus will jump in to help!! :D Wingadmin also does awesome job here. Must be nice to be able to ride all year long while others like myself are stuck to playing in the snow all winter.


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