Electrical problems


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Electrical problems

Postby coldcanuk » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:34 pm



Had a great ride to day, but half way through the ride I had some electrical problems. We stopped for a rest after about an hour ride (everything worked great up to this point), and then when we went to go my bike would not turn over. :evil: I had LCD radio, clock, cruise, radio, intercom, lights, signal lights.....but I did not have Neutral, Reverse, Side Stand, Oil lights plus the heat and fuel gauges had no response. :?: Also, the bike had no starter and no starter reverse. :?: :?: We pushed it to get it going and everything else worked except the above mentioned items. We check all the small fuses...all good. I clicked the reverse handle a couple of times, nothing changed....side stand switch appeared ok.

Any ideas of what to check and look for?



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Re: Electrical problems

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:12 pm

coldcanuk wrote:Had a great ride to day, but half way through the ride I had some electrical problems. We stopped for a rest after about an hour ride (everything worked great up to this point), and then when we went to go my bike would not turn over. :evil: I had LCD radio, clock, cruise, radio, intercom, lights, signal lights.....but I did not have Neutral, Reverse, Side Stand, Oil lights plus the heat and fuel gauges had no response. :?: Also, the bike had no starter and no starter reverse. :?: :?: We pushed it to get it going and everything else worked except the above mentioned items. We check all the small fuses...all good. I clicked the reverse handle a couple of times, nothing changed....side stand switch appeared ok.

Any ideas of what to check and look for?


Were your tail lights operating?

The very first things to check:

Fuse 9 (reverse/start, 5A)
Fuse 11 (Ignition start, cruise, 10A)
Relay 6 (Ignition/Cruise relay)
Fuse 8 (Tail/Meter/Position lights, 15A)
Relay 3 (Tail/Main relay)

Start there and see what you get.

For checking the relays, if you don't have spare relays on hand, swap in a known good relay from a different position.

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Re: Electrical problems

Postby coldcanuk » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:37 pm

Thanks Admin....after checking on all the fuses and relays that you stated it turned out to be the relay for the Tail/Main. Luckily I have a wrecked bike here that had 7 good relays. I replace Tail/Main first and the bike started right up. With relays costing up to $43/each up here, I have saved a lot by having the old wreck sitting here. :D

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Re: Electrical problems

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:21 am

coldcanuk wrote:Thanks Admin....after checking on all the fuses and relays that you stated it turned out to be the relay for the Tail/Main. Luckily I have a wrecked bike here that had 7 good relays. I replace Tail/Main first and the bike started right up. With relays costing up to $43/each up here, I have saved a lot by having the old wreck sitting here. :D


We have relays for much less than that. :) See: http://goldwingdocs.com/Store/Goldwing- ... MS-H30.asp

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Re: Electrical problems

Postby CMReynolds1 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:49 am

Question for WingAdmin. I see 2 different Honda part numbers, but only one part number for your factory replacement. Is that good for both relays?
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Re: Electrical problems

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:13 am

CMReynolds1 wrote:Question for WingAdmin. I see 2 different Honda part numbers, but only one part number for your factory replacement. Is that good for both relays?


Correct. It will replace both the Honda part number H38370-MN5-003 and H38380-MN5-003 - but NOT the 10 amp H38360-MN5-003, which has a different locking tab layout.

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Re: Electrical problems

Postby CMReynolds1 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:30 am

Thanks WingAdmin, you be the El Supremo Guru!!
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Re: Electrical problems

Postby coldcanuk » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:08 am

WingAdmin wrote:
coldcanuk wrote:Thanks Admin....after checking on all the fuses and relays that you stated it turned out to be the relay for the Tail/Main. Luckily I have a wrecked bike here that had 7 good relays. I replace Tail/Main first and the bike started right up. With relays costing up to $43/each up here, I have saved a lot by having the old wreck sitting here. :D


We have relays for much less than that. :) See: http://goldwingdocs.com/Store/Goldwing- ... MS-H30.asp


Yes they are a lot cheaper anywhere. Our Canadian Honda Dealers are not that great! I have a dealer 1/2 hour away and stopping there is a waste of time. :x :roll: I have to go 1 1/2 hours away to get some decent advice although prices are still high. Even with the Cdn/US dollar exchange I can get 80% of the items cheaper by ordering from the USA. The deciding factor is the cost of shipping. My investment in good manuals has paid off for me. With $125/hour labor costs, I can afford to learn from these manuals.

This site has been a huge part of my success fixing my own bike. :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Electrical problems

Postby Jerrydfl » Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:07 am

Hi,
Is the Goldwing GL1500 Omron G8MS-H30 Relay also for the GL1800?

Jerry Deibel

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Postby RBGERSON » Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:40 am

Why did you specific ask about the taillights..given the symptoms he posted? relay 7 tail/main? whqt does the main entail??
HAD LOTS OF GOLDWING 75-83
NOW INTO 1500'S..RIDING A 1998 SE

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Re: Electrical problems

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:18 pm

Jerrydfl wrote:Hi,
Is the Goldwing GL1500 Omron G8MS-H30 Relay also for the GL1800?

Jerry Deibel


No, the GL1800 uses an entirely different relay.




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