Drive Shaft Lubrication


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Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby GBKid » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:11 pm



I am realtively new to this site and am very impressed. I am in the middle of replacing my rear tire and brakes thanks to the outstanding DIY article on this site. However, I wanted to lube the driveshaft while I had the rear end apart and I noticed the DIY Driveshft Lube Video is no longer available on You Tube. Is there a place I can find instructions?



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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby wingman12 » Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:23 pm

Welcome GBkid, the drive shaft is not readily available, it is enclosed in the right side of swing arm. Check around the area of where the swing arm and final drive connect, I am not sure if 89 still had grease fittings in this area or not. If so, you only need a couple of pus of any good grease every few months. If not don't worry about it, the universal joint is the main moving part and it has no way of being lubed

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby MikeB » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:07 am

Actually, it is recommended by Honda that the drive shaft stub into the final drive be lubricated every 16,000 miles. To do that, you need to remove the final with the drive line. There are no grease fittings. The procedure for removal of the final drive is in section 11 of the service manual.

Once you have the wheel off to replace the rear tire, it is a simple matter to remove the final drive and drive shaft for lubrication. There are four nuts that hold it onto the studs of the prop shat housing. You will also have to remove the right shock lower bolt. Once that is done, the final drive comes off.

I suggest that you have a new seal on hand for replacement. The seal goes around the drive shaft and it seat into the final drive. I believe the seal is part number 91261-ME9-005. It's purpose is to keep water and dirt out and grease and gear oil in.
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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby dingdong » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:21 am

Yes to what MikeB said. It is a must to separate the final drive and the shaft for lubing. The splines need to be lubed with Moly60. The final drive lube port is usually clogged allowing no oil into the coupling. Thus dry worn splines. Very poor design by Honda.

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby GBKid » Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:07 am

Thanks for the information. Does anyone have the torque specs for the stud nuts when I reinstall the final drive?

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby MikeB » Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:25 pm

The torque is 47 ft lbs. But, there is more to the operation than just putting it back on the swing arm and torquing the bolts.
You will need the service manual do the job properly.
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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby GBKid » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:05 pm

Thanks. I won't do it without the manual.

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby Fatwing Chris » Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:30 am

Pulled the drive shaft out of my 1800 yesturday.Bike has approx 50 k on it and I bought it with around 35 k.Got some maint. history ,but not all of it as it's had a couple of owners.Didn't know if it had been done before.Any ways I got it out and the front splines looked like they had moly 60 but the rear looked like normal grease.Glad I pulled it and put the proper grease in both ends.
If I'da known it would last this long,I'da taken better care of it.
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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby redial » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:02 am

Whenever doing this maintenance, remember, Cleanliness is next to Goodliness. Make sure you clean all of the surfaces before you re-grease them with Moly 60 (or better).
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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby mrjay62 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:21 pm

Hi guys
Question, Can I use something like this-Valvoline SynPower Full-Synthetic Multipurpose Grease
Or do I really need to order Grease from Honda? Or is there something else you guys are using?



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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby GBKid » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:49 pm

Use the Moly 60 Paste from Honda. It is only about $12.00 a tube and there is plenty of paste to lube the driveshaft and final drive gear splines if you remove your rear wheel. It is a high temperature paste specifically designed not to thin and fling off the gears. Make sure to clean off the old paste with brake cleaner before applying the new paste. Wear gloves too. It is messy and clings to everything it touches. Good luck.

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby wingman12 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:55 pm

You don't have to put the moly 60 on very thick, a thin coat on the splines of the final drive itself is adquite. I made the mistake of not using the proper (moly 60) and had replace my final drive and final drive spline. Much cheater to buy the proper grease than replace worn out parts. :D :D

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby mrjay62 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:00 pm

Thanks BGkid..wingman

may only be only 12bucks but the mc shops around me dont carry it... I live in the Freaken Wood almost like the dark age around here.. sorry its the Bronx in me talking.... And its half the cost to get a tube shipped, was hoping for an alternative. But I guess ill bite the bullet and order some...
Frim believer In doing it right the 1st time.....

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby wingman12 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:07 pm

Google the moly 60 and read up on its product made up, then search for a similar product.

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby mrjay62 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:43 pm

Just call my brother he's going to stop at the honda dealer by him in the bronx and mail it to me....
On line im finding it for 20 plus , Plus shipping! Amazon has it for 14$ 4.2 oz gotta spend 35$ to get free shipping... 8 $ for the same amount at the dealer.... Problem resolved, lol
I got this bike for 1.700 im sure by the time im done ill have another 1.000 into it....
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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby spiralout » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:14 pm

mrjay62 wrote:I got this bike for 1.700 im sure by the time im done ill have another 1.000 into it....
thanks again...

And then you'll still only have about half of what it's worth in it. Or you could take it to Canadia and sell it for 10 grand...

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby mrjay62 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:34 am

Spiralout...
Naaa im going to keep her for a while. Already have alot into it....And alot more to come in the next week or 2......
Why would it be worth so much more in Canada? .

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby spiralout » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:13 pm

Oh ya, keep that bike. I was just saying that ending up having around 2.7-3k in it is still a great deal. I have a total of close to 2.5k into my '96 SE and thought I'd gotten the best deal going. I was kind of drinking last night, sorry if I didn't express myself well. As far as them costing more in Canada, no idea why, but from what I've read from our members in the land of ice and snow, they pay way too much up there.

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby gordonv » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:59 pm

Honda is doing away with the moly 60, and moving to a new 70. Their 60 actually wasn't very good.

I also believe it's moly on the drive splines, but grease on the end of the drive shaft.

Check the manual as already suggested, and read the rear wheel removing DIY, which will/should have all the info you need.

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby MikeB » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:02 pm

Loctite Moly Paste is quite reasonable and available just about anywhere.

http://www.henkelna.com/product-search-1554.htm?nodeid=8797877698561
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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby Bobsiler » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:59 pm

I just finished putting mine back together tonight. Honda switched from Moly 60 to Moly 77. Ordered it online for $20. The tube looks like it's good for 2-3 services. I pulled the rear differential and separated the drive line. Greased all splines with moly including the tranny shaft. I pulled back the boot exposing the u joint and was able the slide it off and grease it then slide it back on. I've read where guys use the reverse to help line up the u joint and driveshaft. I just turned the u joint by hand while pushing the rear end with the other hand. Slid right in no problem. The whole process took maybe 1-1/2 hours including changing the fluid. Well worth doing while you have the tire off. I also used the hinge method to access the rear which worked very well.lifted the rear cases up and tied it off with a rope. Great info here!

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby mrjay62 » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:08 am

Gezzz ! Are you Watching me?

if your hiding in the woods, Here come my dogs!!

im doing the samething... Only difference is I like to paint anything I take off...lol

Wait , I Got Question when ordering parts I see the they list the bike as ,1500 SE-A or 1500 SE AC.
Do you know what the A and AC stand for??
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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby Bobsiler » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:53 am

It has to to with options the bike came with. Not sure exactly which was which. Mine is an '88 and they were all the same with the exception of the CB being optional. My didn't have one so I added it. Later years even reverse was optional which I think was nuts! These heavy beasts need reverse. The SE being the fully loaded models.

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Re: Drive Shaft Lubrication

Postby mrjay62 » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:31 pm

Thanks Bob.....
I guess I'll have to look it up, Just to be sure im ordering the right parts the 1st time..
So far I been lucky everything I ordered fit.....

thanks again..
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