Space between seat and body


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Space between seat and body

Postby ghostdawg1520 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:17 pm



I have a space of about 1 inch or so between the the passenger part of the seat and the body of the bike even with my stock seat i have the same issue has anyone had this issue and how did you fix it ?,thanx
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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:32 pm

ghostdawg1520 wrote:I have a space of about 1 inch or so between the the passenger part of the seat and the body of the bike even with my stock seat i have the same issue has anyone had this issue and how did you fix it ?,thanx


Do you mean a space between it and the trunk? Or it and one side? Any chance you could post a picture?

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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby ghostdawg1520 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:34 pm

its the space on the sides of the body,I'll try to get a pic of it up....

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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby MikeB » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:37 pm

If the picture is what you have now, it does not look good. Someone had an accident with this machine and it appears that the saddlebag stay is bent.
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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby ghostdawg1520 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:49 pm

well thats the problem im the only owner bought the bike new from the dealer i have 157,000 miles on,never been in any accidents,thats why im confused about this....

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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby MikeB » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:01 pm

That is confusing. A picture with more of the bike showing would be appreciated. From the looks of it, something has damaged it. If the seat is bolted in place, and it looks like it is, then someone or something has damaged that bike. I can barely get my finger tips between the saddlebag and the trunk mounted storage box on my GL1500. There is damage there but it is hard to tell what has happened.
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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby a@r » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:03 pm

I cannot see how this can happened if you have the bolts in the holes. the oh-hello handle should not be nearly that high. Has it always been like this of have you changed something that might make a difference

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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby ghostdawg1520 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:04 pm

ok what i'll do tomorrow when there's daylight ill put the bike in the driveway and take a pic of it from the side so the whole bike can be seen...

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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby a@r » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:06 pm

also If I am looking at this picture right there should not be any wiring showing between the rear truck and the bags. I can see a lot of wtuff on this picture I cannot see on my bike and I just put the seat back on last night

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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby NVSB4 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:18 pm

I think instead of the squirrel putting nuts in the air filter, you got him trapped under your seat. :D

I have to push mine down a little just to get the bolt holes to line up. You have well over an inch to where mine sits.
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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby dingdong » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:07 am

Is this problem something new? Has it been like that or what? Been serviced for something recently? More history needed. Definitely something amiss there.
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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby joeincalif » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:20 am

Is this on both sides or just one side?
here is what it should look like. Something is broke, either the saddlebag stay or there is something wrong with the trunk mounts. There are several scratches on the bottom of the trunk, perhaps it has been knocked out of alignment.

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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:35 pm

There's something definitely wrong.

The seat is installed correctly. You can see the right rear topmost shock mount bolt just peeking through below the seat there, and the seat handle mounting bolts in relation to that shock mount bolt is correct.

What is obviously not correct is that the saddlebag is a good inch lower than it should be. There are two things that can cause this:

Bottom of saddlebag is broken
Saddlebag mounting frame is bent

Both can be caused by accident impact or by severely overloading the saddlebag.

It could also be that the entire frame of the bike is bent/twisted

Interestingly, the side panel in front of it is also misaligned - at least the rear portion of it. This cannot be caused by the saddlebag mounting frame being bent, because it is positioned in grommets mounted into the main frame. Either the whole frame is twisted, or one or more of the mounting studs for that side panel is broken off.

You need to remove that saddlebag and see what is going on.

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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:44 pm

OK, I see you asked this in a second, separate thread:

ghostdawg1520 wrote:Has anyone had an issue with the side cover studs not lining up with the holes for the grommets ? (never had any accidents on the bike) it seems like the left side saddle bag has shifted so the holes don't line up but the bolts that hold the saddle bag in place line up ,so there's no way to adjust the bag.... Confused


This answers my question above. The studs aren't lining up with the grommets because you are aligning the side panel with the saddlebag, and the saddlebag is out of position by more than an inch. That's good news, it means that most likely your main bike frame is OK, and it is just the saddlebag frame that is bent or damaged.

You need to remove the saddlebag on that side and find out what has happened.

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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby MikeB » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:10 pm

Either he has his left's and right's confused on the bike or the problem is plaguing both sides.
The picture in this thread shows the right side.

In the other thread he says,
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Has anyone had an issue with the side cover studs not lining up with the holes for the grommets ? (never had any accidents on the bike) it seems like the left side saddle bag has shifted so the holes don't line up but the bolts that hold the saddle bag in place line up ,so there's no way to adjust the bag.... Confused


That spreads the confusion a bit wider.
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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby ct1500 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:57 pm

I would bet the trunk and bags were swung up to do some rear wheel work and the lower saddlebag frame bolts were not correctly attached where they should be or left off. The gap between lower edge of trunk and top of bag is now way out meaning the trunk bottomed out bending the trunk brackets to the sub-frame.

The weight of bags alone should not have caused that separation gap to the trunk, did you have a trailer hooked up?
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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby spiralout » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:55 am

OP hasn't logged in since the night this thread was started. Come back OP!!! Inquiring minds want to know...

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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby ghostdawg1520 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:51 pm

ok so here's the deal,i took apart the rear of the bike and as everyone has said it was definitely a subframe issue,th bottom right bolt was missing ??? ( i have no idea how that happend) and the subframe itself was broken in multiple places,i have a new one and i am in the process of installing it now,thank everyone for all the help and suggestions :)

P.S.- this is the way my subframe came off the bike,i did no cutting or breaking of anything...
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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby themainviking » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:43 am

It is fantastic when a plan comes together. Congrats on locating your problem and finding a solution. Man, that subframe looks bad.
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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby ghostdawg1520 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:17 am

You're right about that, it loox more like a 3D jig saw puzzle lol

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Re: Space between seat and body

Postby ghostdawg1520 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:07 am

well here's what she looks like now that i've changed the rear subframe,all she needs is a nice bath and we'll be out riding later on today.... :D
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