Round 2!


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shadow02
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Round 2!

Postby shadow02 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:29 am



Greetings fellow Wing Empire, it's me once again with a continuing issue with the cruise control on the 1988 GL 1500. I did as recommended by so many of you and replaced the bushing and nut & bolt assembly in the clutch lever. The issue about the cruise control not engaging still remains. If I push the lever out and hold outward force on it, it engages. When I release the pressure it disengages. What is the next step to a resolve? Ideas?

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Re: Round 2!

Postby spiralout » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:27 pm

You replaced the pivot bushing? I'd guess the push rod bushing is worn too.

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Re: Round 2!

Postby shadow02 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:40 pm

Yes, the pivot bushing. But what you say could be true. When I removed the lever, the push rod just fell out. The "boot" or whatever holds that push rod in place was pretty much toast. Didn't have the best light on examination. The lever itself has play; up and down, forward and backward. Not much, couple cm max. I think whatever holds the lever "outward" is where my problem lies. True?

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spiralout wrote:You replaced the pivot bushing? I'd guess the push rod bushing is worn too.

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Re: Round 2!

Postby spiralout » Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:14 pm

Yep and the pushrod is what holds the lever outward. It's either the bushing, rod or clutch in serious need of fluid and bleeding.

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Re: Round 2!

Postby shadow02 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:50 pm

Well since I just replaced the bushing, fluid was done a month ago, let's try the push rod if that takes care of the issue. Thanks for the info.
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spiralout wrote:Yep and the pushrod is what holds the lever outward. It's either the bushing, rod or clutch in serious need of fluid and bleeding.

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Re: Round 2!

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:41 pm

When the lever is in its 'natural' resting position, right now, and you push it outward to make cruise engagement possible.....is there a detectable distance of travel that the lever actually moves (measurable), or is it just the action of applying force to the resting lever that makes the cruise engage ? I ask, because I had a similar issue with my brake lever, and it was not really a measurable movement on the part of the lever. It would simply allow the clutch to engage if I applied pressure to the brake lever. In my case, it wound up being a defect in the casting of a new set of levers that I had installed. A know issue with aftermarket levers. Thought you might be experiencing a similar problem, and bushings and pushrods won't fix that problem.

I was just looking at the levers available at Cyclemax, and noted that there are 2 different sets available for the GL1500. !988-89 and 1990 -2000. There is apparently a difference. Wonder if that could also play into your problem. Did you purchase these for that bike, or did they come with the bike, or were they just a spare set that came with the bike ?

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Re: Round 2!

Postby shadow02 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:06 pm

No, these are original to the best of my knowledge. I think Spiralout hit the nail on the head but I appreciate the feedback.
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Bluewaterhooker0 wrote:When the lever is in its 'natural' resting position, right now, and you push it outward to make cruise engagement possible.....is there a detectable distance of travel that the lever actually moves (measurable), or is it just the action of applying force to the resting lever that makes the cruise engage ? I ask, because I had a similar issue with my brake lever, and it was not really a measurable movement on the part of the lever. It would simply allow the clutch to engage if I applied pressure to the brake lever. In my case, it wound up being a defect in the casting of a new set of levers that I had installed. A know issue with aftermarket levers. Thought you might be experiencing a similar problem, and bushings and pushrods won't fix that problem.

I was just looking at the levers available at Cyclemax, and noted that there are 2 different sets available for the GL1500. !988-89 and 1990 -2000. There is apparently a difference. Wonder if that could also play into your problem. Did you purchase these for that bike, or did they come with the bike, or were they just a spare set that came with the bike ?

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Re: Round 2!

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:39 pm

Well, I guess you are on your way to having it repaired. But I am still curious about the first part of my question. When you are pushing the lever out, to allow the cruise to set, does the lever travel any measurable or noticeable distance ? Or, are you just applying pressure to the lever, already in its resting position ?

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Re: Round 2!

Postby shadow02 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:31 am

1-3 cm at most, probably normal play. When I engage the cruise by holding the clutch lever forward, as soon as i let go the cruise goes off. My shadow does the same thing even though I don't have cruise on the shadow. It too has a wee bit of forward play in it.

Bluewaterhooker0 wrote:Well, I guess you are on your way to having it repaired. But I am still curious about the first part of my question. When you are pushing the lever out, to allow the cruise to set, does the lever travel any measurable or noticeable distance ? Or, are you just applying pressure to the lever, already in its resting position ?

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Re: Round 2!

Postby spiralout » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:27 pm

shadow02 wrote:Well since I just replaced the bushing, fluid was done a month ago, let's try the push rod if that takes care of the issue.

You said you replaced the pivot bushing, not the push rod bushing, correct?

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Re: Round 2!

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:18 pm

I assume you mean MM, not CM. That additional travel might be enough to cause your problem. Mine rest at their stop position when released, there is no additional travel in the lever. So, sounds like the push rod may do it for you, if it is worn and causing the problem. Good luck.

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Re: Round 2!

Postby OmegaTech » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:15 am

Hi Guys
I have been reading the posts on this thread. Having done a lot of work on cruise control and the system operation. I think you may be going the wrong way. Go back to basics...

With the clutch handle in its normal resting place put your ear close to the pivot point and gently pull it in. Do you hear the click of the switches. Then when you release the lever do you hear the switches again. If not try loosening the switch retaining screws and push back the switch back toward the centre of the bike, re tighten and try again. This sounds more the case here.

Ian,
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