97' 1500 SE, air compressor output


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97' 1500 SE, air compressor output

Postby snappytom » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:05 am



I have a 97' SE. The air compressor works fine for the rear suspension, but nothing happens for output. Following the manual, I have checked the fuse, relay, the switches and pump. Yes the Descant needs to be replaced, but that doesn't explain why the pump works for ride adjustment, and not output. Any help would be appreciated.



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Re: 97' 1500 SE, air compressor output

Postby MikeB » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:17 am

How are you testing the output?
Thee is a procedure in the owners manual. Read it and follow it. It doesn't work like you would logically think that it would.
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Re: 97' 1500 SE, air compressor output

Postby snappytom » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:42 am

First I press the "output" button, (Engine Running). Second I press and hold both "pressure check" and "output", (ER). I tried this with no hose extension hose end not connected to tire, with 10' hose extension, not connected to tire. Then with 10' hose extension connected to tire. Compressor will only operate (ER) in neutral for rear suspension inflate and deflate operations. I followed the Owners Manual, and the service manual.
Following SM, I removed and tested the switches with digital multi-meter. Continuity and oHmms. I then tested the Fuse (out of holder) and removed the relay testing the same way. Then following the SM procedure, I connected the relay to power source (bench test battery holding 13.6VDC). Relay works normally. Clicking with oHmms values to SM spec. Wiring visually and electrically checked OK. Desperation brought me here.

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Re: 97' 1500 SE, air compressor output

Postby MikeB » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:36 am

Try this...

From the Owners Manual

To supply air pressure from the outlet valve:
1. Turn the ignition switch to the P position.
2. To inflate a tire, connect an air supply hose to the outlet
valve.
3. Push the OUTLET button to supply air pressure. The air
pressure will not appear in the display at this time.

You did notice that the ignition key is to be in the "P" position right?
The engine can not be running in that position.
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Re: 97' 1500 SE, air compressor output

Postby snappytom » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:54 am

Thank you Mike! That worked quite well. True that that process is not logical as the battery is under substantial load with engine off seams wrong. I will be looking at affecting an upgrade to the Power to Switch, (ER) option. I look back on the hours I have spent "Getting to know my bike better" and smile at how simple the solution was. I will pass this info on to my local Gold Wing Shop so that others will benefit.

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Re: 97' 1500 SE, air compressor output

Postby kahunah » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:07 pm

This forum is OUTSTANDING! I couldn't get my compressor to run on output either. The suspension works fine. I was trying to convince myself to tear it apart and find the problem. Tonight I came across this thread and said to myself, "no way!" I went out to the garage, turned the switch to "P" hit the button and.........It Works!! Thank you, thank you, thank you! :D

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Re: 97' 1500 SE, air compressor output

Postby MikeB » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:43 am

Now that you know how to use the on-board compressor to inflate a tire, Don't do it. It will take 30 minutes to inflate your motorcycle tire after you have repaired a flat with a plug. That little on-board compressor just can not handle the load, and your battery may not be able to either. Right along with the instructions of how to use the compressor is a CAUTION.

CAUTION:
• Do not operate the air pump for more than 5 minutes at a
time or the pump unit may be damaged.


That is pretty good advise. Mainly because the compressor is $438.38 MFR Suggested Retail and you can get one as low as $326.18 on a good day. Pretty pricey for a little compressor.

What I do is use a small $10 compressor from a major department/auto store and gut the compressor and put it in a medium size camera bag. The compressor fits nicely in a saddle bag and takes up very little room.

I would upload the PDF file here but the BBS will not allow that upload so I have included a picture of the page from a magazine.
I know it is a bit hard to read but I think you get the general idea. Click on the picture a couple of times and it will zoom in enough to read.

If that little compressor fails while you are airing up a tire, which I don't think will happen, you are out only $10 and you STILL have the ability to adjust your suspension.
If the on-board compressor fails, you are screwed.

If you would like me to email the PDF to you, let me know.
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Re: 97' 1500 SE, air compressor output

Postby snappytom » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:57 am

Thank you Mike, vary good advice.

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Re: 97' 1500 SE, air compressor output

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:55 pm

Send me the PDF and I'll post it up here for everyone to get. info@goldwingdocs.com




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