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Click no start

Postby RBGERSON » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:41 am



So yesterday the bike started but it sounded a bit hesitant. Today click, click nothing spinning..volts down to 10 then 8.5 on the firecreek bike mounted volt meter. So I stopped trying to start it. Pulled the battery cover off check the battery with a separate meter 12.5..uhmm. Put the charger on it just to see if topping it off will help.

Before when I ran the bike the firecreek volt meter showed it charging at 14 most the time..gell battery compufire system. So it seems like I'll fooling around with the solenoids, wiring or battery or all three???

refresh my memory is the top solenoid the primary one for the starter or is it the bottom one..or do both have to connect for the starter to spin???

Any suggestions before i dig into this..

Ps my starter switch only connects to turn the starter as I release it..I know it probably dirty but it has worked that way for two years now..


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Re: Click no start

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:12 am

Both solenoids are energized to crank.for reverse only "A" is used.

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Re: Click no start

Postby RBGERSON » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:50 am

Thanks and an update..my battery was not a gel like the PO said and it was low on water..so it filled. It's now charging..so we'll see if I toasted it..but definitely a battery issue.

Now I wonder if I am going to have to get a gel battery. As my bike when running 2500 or more charges at 14.5 to 14.9 most of the time..as I turn on extra lights, driving lights and marker lights I can get in down to under 14..but just: even at idle once warmed up it charges at 14. So not a stock alternator??right??? Iwas told compufire and gel battery now I am not so sure as the battery is not a gel...
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Re: Click no start

Postby harvey01 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:52 pm

First and foremost motorcycles, cars and trucks and most internal combustion engines need an adequate battery to get things running. Before they will function they have to have adequate power. As soon as I read 8 volts while cranking, it sounded like a battery problem.

You might want to go to the Yuasa website and download or just read their tech manual. It is set up to tell all of us a lot about setting up a battery, and properly maintaining a battery for long life.

The tech manual also discusses the various types of batteries.

I was under the impression that CompuFire had their own battery that they sold with the alternator. Perhaps the PO made a switch and forgot.
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Re: Click no start

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:15 pm

If you have a Compufire, and a standard wet cell battery, it's no wonder it was boiled dry. So yes, AGM battery for you (and even if you don't have a Compfure, it's not a bad idea).

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Re: Click no start

Postby ct1500 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:54 pm

And please do not rely on an unchecked aftermarket dash meter when making voltage checks during electrical diagnosis, use a DMM connected to battery.

Tenths of a volt can make a difference.
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Re: Click no start

Postby RBGERSON » Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:38 pm

Just an update and note.

I did calibrate my on-board meter with a meter..it shows slightly less V's like .5 it varies a bit at different rpm's but I can check it by holding a steady 3,500.

The old battery is holding a charge 12.5 or so..so I will just keep an eye on it and the water levels for now but my next battery will be a AMG when this one craps out.
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Re: Click no start

Postby redial » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:21 pm

I have peered into my crystal ball, and I see a new AGM battery in your near future! :?
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Re: Click no start

Postby gordonv » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:07 pm

If you had 8v on your onboard meter, and read 12v at the battery with a hand held, it seems to me that you have a loose/corroded connection in there somewhere.

You still may need a new battery. Remove. Top up. Clean and tighten the connections. They try it again.

You showing 14v on a running bike doesn't mean that the battery is charging, if the connection is loose.

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Re: Click no start

Postby RBGERSON » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:47 pm

That was .5 not 5 V's off..which I attribute to distance from the battery, connections etc. so my on board meter is right on..give or take the usual wire resistance drop as you move away from the battery.


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