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speedometer problems

Postby Skibumvet » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:53 pm



During a ride on 1996 1500SE the speedometer began to oscillate wildly and then stop working along with the turn signal cancellation. I changed the speedometer cable that was old, but the speedometer is still not working and can hear a clicking as test drove the bike. I am assuming that the speedometer is the problem but is there any testing or other parts that I need to look at? Is it possible to buy just a speedometer?
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Re: speedometer problems

Postby Mh434 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:07 pm

Although I haven't had the problem, I understand that the drive unit for the speedo, at the front wheel, can cause problems. Before removing the speedo itself, I'd try putting the bike on center stand, putting a jack under the engine, and lift the front wheel off the ground. Then, spin the wheel, and listen at the front hub to see if that's where the noise is coming from. Aside from everything else, the cost (and ease of repair) is far better for the speedo drive unit than the instrument itself. Might as well check out the easy/cheap stuff first, right?

Price-wise, I see there's a brand new, OEM GL1500 speedo drive on Ebay for about $85 (there are probably lots of cheaper ones, too that's the first one I looked at). There's also a used one in the $60 range...

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Re: speedometer problems

Postby Skibumvet » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:49 pm

That is great advice. Thanks. I will definitely check the speedo.

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Re: speedometer problems

Postby gford » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:37 pm

I lost my speedometer this summer (99 SE) same symptoms as you and replacing the cable didn't fix the problem, actually it broke the new cable immediately. I disconnected the cable from the back of the speedometer and inserted a screw diver into the head and tried to turn it but it was frozen solid. When I removed the speedometer the head was frozen solid with crude. A couple of years ago i greased the speed cable with wheel bearing grease. The grease worked its way into the speedometer head and once the oil was used up the wax formed a crude and seized the head. Cleaned the head out with a plastic safe spray cleaner and worked it with a screw driver while spraying and the thing freeded up as good a new.

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Re: speedometer problems

Postby gford » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:39 pm

The turn signal cancellation and cruise control are also controlled by the speedometer.

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Re: speedometer problems

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:20 am

Pull the cable off the back of the speedometer, and with the front wheel lifted in the air, spin the front wheel. If the inside of the cable turns, the problem is likely the speedometer. If the inside of the cable doesn't turn, it's likely the speedometer drive on the wheel hub that's the problem.

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Re: speedometer problems

Postby Skibumvet » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:13 pm

Thanks for all the advice. Will try to get to it this weekend to test the problem!

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Re: speedometer problems

Postby lamasue » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:41 pm

how do you lube the speedometer looks like no space to get a lubricant in at wheel end

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Re: speedometer problems

Postby Uncle Fester » Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:14 pm

lamasue wrote:how do you lube the speedometer looks like no space to get a lubricant in at wheel end


I am not sure if this is the RIT way, but on my other bikes, I removed the speedo cable, pulled the inner drive out of it, sprayed a does of carb cleaner down the tube to "eat" the gunkm grease, dust and ??? Out of the housing, then spayed it out good with compressed air/ air hose, sprayed some Dri Slide down inside the casing, reinstalled the drive cable, and reinstalled on the bike.

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Re: speedometer problems

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:27 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:
lamasue wrote:how do you lube the speedometer looks like no space to get a lubricant in at wheel end


I am not sure if this is the RIT way, but on my other bikes, I removed the speedo cable, pulled the inner drive out of it, sprayed a does of carb cleaner down the tube to "eat" the gunkm grease, dust and ??? Out of the housing, then spayed it out good with compressed air/ air hose, sprayed some Dri Slide down inside the casing, reinstalled the drive cable, and reinstalled on the bike.

***EDIT***
This is the Drislide I use
http://www.drislide.com/products/drisli ... t-w-needle


That's exactly the method I would use. Although I might use a graphite-based dry lubricant rather than a moly-based one. Same end result, however.

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Re: speedometer problems

Postby Charlie1Horse » Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:30 pm

Been lubricating speedometer cables on cars and trucks for about 40 years and always used a good white lithium grease. It does a good job, is light and thin, doesn't cause problems with the speedometer and lasts long. You can find it in a squeeze tube from any auto parts house.

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