Kill Switch Doesn't Work


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Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby flogger » Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:21 pm



Searched and found all sorts of kill switch issues but didn't find anything about just being inop... If the kill switch rotates thru all positions but simply does nothing, is that fixable by opening it up or must it be replaced? It does not interfere with any of the bikes running in any way... Everything works, all the time but the switch simply does nothing... I wondered if a PO bypassed it somehow?


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Re: Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby Charlie1Horse » Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:51 pm

It could be bypassed as I have read other's posts about doing just that. I had a problem with my kill switch and found that the terminals were loose from 20+ years and 75,000 miles. Normal vibrations will after miles and years cause the terminals to loosen. There are 2 screws under the switch that will allow you to remove it. Check the terminals and if both wires are under the same screw, separate them and replace them properly. Clean the switch with a good electronic cleaner and it probably will be OK. I check the kill switch once a year when I renew my registration and write on the new one to check the switch, Just as a reminder for next year. It only takes a few minutes to check and then I know I won't have any more trouble there.
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Re: Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby flogger » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:04 pm

The same screws to get to the cruise control buttons in the "how to free stuck buttons" article? From those pictures, will I see the kill switch parts you described or do I need to remove some more/other inner components?
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Re: Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby Charlie1Horse » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:46 pm

The same screws to get to the cruise control buttons in the "how to free stuck buttons" article? From those pictures, will I see the kill switch parts you described or do I need to remove some more/other inner components?

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Yes, same 2 screws but, IDK about the cruise switches. My 92 is an Interstate,(no cruise), and my problem was that she quit on me on a ride with a dozen other guys. After trailering her home I researched my factory service manual and this site and when I removed the right switch assembly I found the terminals loose. I never tried to remove the kill switch from it's housing so I can't tell you about that. I just sprayed some electronic cleaner in it.
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Re: Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby joeincalif » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:53 am

It's always good to have everything working like it was designed to but I never use the KILL switch. I always turn the bike off with the key. I have heard more then once where someone turned the bike off with the KILL switch and forgot to turn the ignition off, results were a dead battery.
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Re: Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby flogger » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:01 pm

Yeah, I like to have everything working too. I opened it up, mostly cruise buttons inside and not easy to see much for the kill switch part or there is not much there period. Cleaned it all out with contact cleaner and put it ask together /on... Did not fix it...
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Re: Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:05 am

Did you test the kill switch with a meter at its terminals, to ensure that it was in fact not working - and to rule out a problem with wiring or a connector somewhere else?

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Re: Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby flogger » Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:13 pm

No, just inspected/cleaned the area with contact cleaner. What would I do to test it? Very beginner level mechanic here... I have one basic Radio Shack "multi meter" measures voltage, current and resistance. That's right off the box... Very basic unit. The only thing I've ever done with it is test batteries... Can it do what you're suggesting and what do I do?
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Re: Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:28 pm

flogger wrote:No, just inspected/cleaned the area with contact cleaner. What would I do to test it? Very beginner level mechanic here... I have one basic Radio Shack "multi meter" measures voltage, current and resistance. That's right off the box... Very basic unit. The only thing I've ever done with it is test batteries... Can it do what you're suggesting and what do I do?


You absolutely can. Set your meter to measure resistance (ohms). Make sure the bike is turned OFF (or you could cook your meter).

There are two wires going to your kill switch: Black with white stripe, and black with a light green stripe. You want to measure those two wires.

When the kill switch is set to RUN, those two wires should have zero resistance. When the kill switch is set to OFF (either position) you should have infinite (or very large) resistance.

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Re: Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby flogger » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:09 pm

WingAdmin wrote:There are two wires going to your kill switch: Black with white stripe, and black with a light green stripe. You want to measure those two wires.

When the kill switch is set to RUN, those two wires should have zero resistance. When the kill switch is set to OFF (either position) you should have infinite (or very large) resistance.


I have cruise control so there are more buttons and wires in the switch. From what I can see, there are two screws going into the kill switch that I can see/reach without further disassembly but the wires are bundled and I can not see them or their colors. My meter pins will reach these screws thru the other wires/wire bundle.

When I put the red contact pin on any one of these screws and the black meter pin on any grounding spot I can reach, nothing happens with either screw and with either of the 3 run/kill positions...

When I put the red contact pin on one of these screws and the black contact pin on the other one, I get resistance readings in the run position and nothing (OL) in either kill position... Meter was set to Ohms, Wing ignition was off...
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Re: Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby GeezerGoldwing » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:08 pm

1989 1500.. how the heck do you get the right hand control apart to check kill switch and cruise? only one screw in the bottom of the control. do i have to pull the throttle cables off the carbs? I feel stupid so I had to ask this question. thanks for advice in advance..

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Re: Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:22 pm

GeezerGoldwing wrote:1989 1500.. how the heck do you get the right hand control apart to check kill switch and cruise? only one screw in the bottom of the control. do i have to pull the throttle cables off the carbs? I feel stupid so I had to ask this question. thanks for advice in advance..


There are no stupid questions. The reason you're having trouble getting it apart is because there are TWO screws:

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Once those are removed, you can pull the top away:

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Re: Kill Switch Doesn't Work

Postby GeezerGoldwing » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:37 pm

Thank you very much.
But now I feel really stupid. Two screws.

I took this bike apart, carb job. Replaced the fan sensor switch etc,, and couldn't find that second screw. Thanks again.




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