Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?


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Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby GaryRC4 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:27 am



Hello, WingAdmin,
My first time for this, so I thank you for your expertise.
I saw your great instruction for replacing the cornering lights with LEDs, and decided I wanted to do it. When I looked at superbrightleds.com to purchase the LEDs you installed (H3-WHP9), they said they were discontinued. Do you know which LED would serve as a substitute? There are so many on their web page, and it's unclear which ones I would need that would be the right fit and that would be good and bright. Please help.
Thank you.
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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:39 am

GaryRC4 wrote:Hello, WingAdmin,
My first time for this, so I thank you for your expertise.
I saw your great instruction for replacing the cornering lights with LEDs, and decided I wanted to do it. When I looked at superbrightleds.com to purchase the LEDs you installed (H3-WHP9), they said they were discontinued. Do you know which LED would serve as a substitute? There are so many on their web page, and it's unclear which ones I would need that would be the right fit and that would be good and bright. Please help.
Thank you.
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If I were going to do it again today, I would use this relatively new LED:

http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/50_watt ... /83/270155



It is a 50-watt equivalent, fits right in place of the stock OEM bulb, and puts out a ton of light. Cyclemax commissioned them exclusively due to demand for just such a product.

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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby GaryRC4 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:07 pm

Got your message, and I thank you for the very quick reply ! I already ordered the LEDs you recommended today. I'm anxious to see how well they work. Thank you again for your prompt response.
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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby cbx4evr » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:18 pm

Thanks for bringing this subject back to the top. I've been wanting to do something about my driving lights too. I've got the Super Bright LED's that you asked about and would advise that you go with the CycleMax product. The SuperBright LED's were not bright at all. Very anemic light IMO.

So my problem is I snipped the wire pigtail to install the SuperBright light. One of them wasn't in very good shape anyway so no big deal. But now to go to the CycleMax offering I need to put the double contact pigtails back in. Anybody know where I can get those?? Has Honda used something special in there? don't have the old ones to look at anymore :(
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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:51 pm

cbx4evr wrote:Thanks for bringing this subject back to the top. I've been wanting to do something about my driving lights too. I've got the Super Bright LED's that you asked about and would advise that you go with the CycleMax product. The SuperBright LED's were not bright at all. Very anemic light IMO.

So my problem is I snipped the wire pigtail to install the SuperBright light. One of them wasn't in very good shape anyway so no big deal. But now to go to the CycleMax offering I need to put the double contact pigtails back in. Anybody know where I can get those?? Has Honda used something special in there? don't have the old ones to look at anymore :(


Yeah, they are pretty nonstandard. You can still get new replacement harnesses for $18 each. The part number is: 33205-MAM-D82

http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com ... RY%20LIGHT

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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby cbx4evr » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:04 am

Thanks for that info. Didn't even think to look if it was available from Honda. Probably run around $25 each here. I was looking on the CycleMax site and saw they sold a complete kit with the lights, harness and LED bulbs for around $150. May go that way and then I start off with new lights too. I'd put some 3M film on them to protect from the stone blasting.
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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:54 am

cbx4evr wrote:Thanks for that info. Didn't even think to look if it was available from Honda. Probably run around $25 each here. I was looking on the CycleMax site and saw they sold a complete kit with the lights, harness and LED bulbs for around $150. May go that way and then I start off with new lights too. I'd put some 3M film on them to protect from the stone blasting.


That's actually a really great idea - the lenses on mine are so pitted that it really affects the light output.

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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby cbx4evr » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:18 am

Are you sitting down???? I was quoted at the dealership a price of $44 each for the driving light harness. Waiting for a reply from Cyclemax.
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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby wingman12 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:37 pm

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I installed the superbright driving lights that was referenced by Wingadmin back in July of this year. they made a big difference in night visibility both for me and on coming traffic. It takes a little work to cut out the holes to make them fit but it was worth it. :D :D

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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby MikeB » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:27 pm

wingman12 wrote:I installed the superbright driving lights that was referenced by Wingadmin back in July of this year.

Would you happen to have a picture or two of your installation? I'd love to see how it turned out.
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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby wingman12 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:36 pm

I have them stashed on the cloud in my phone, but until I find the neighbor kid to show me how to send them I am afraid to say I don't have the immediately available :lol: :lol:

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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby Uncle Fester » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:50 pm

You mounted those INSIDE the stock cornering light housing ? Are they incased inside, or did you cut a hole in the lens for them to shine through ? I too would be very interested in seeing some pics !

Go to the local highschool, grab some random kid by the ears, and demand he/she teach you ! Oh, wait, they frown on that, grabbing of a random kid that is. . . . . . Got to figure some thing out, WE NEED PICS ! LOL
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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby wingman12 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:21 pm

I liked your idea so much about the high school kids ears, I did and I am half way to sending you some pictures. Yes they are inside the stock running light area and you have to cut out the original socket in order to make them fit. I had planned to take enough for a how to do article but got carried away and did not take enough pictures. here goes with the attachment pictures, I hope
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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby MikeB » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:29 pm

Good job. Thanks. Just what I wanted to see.
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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby wingman12 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:59 pm

The high school kid found a couple more from the beginning of the experiment.
Have to cut this pc out, I used a drummel, the cutting wheel did not work it only melted the plastic, the drill bit worked better.

then used the cutting wheel ? to make a better shaping of the hole.
I took and cut the plug end off the original pigtail and soldered it to the new LED (brown to red and green to black) then heat shrink

after fitting into hole drill hole and secure brace, play with alignment of light to your liking, the lights are only 17 in off ground so straight ahead and a little to the right works great.
once properly aligned, I used marine silicone adhesive to seal and lock light in place. Done :D :D
Maybe Wingadmin can dress up the two and make a better how to do

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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby Uncle Fester » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:22 pm

LOOKS GREAT ! Those pics give me some ideas for next spring. . . . . THANKS FOR POSTING !
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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:38 pm

It does look great, what a great idea!

Incidentally, if your Dremel cutting wheel just melts the plastic (and the plastic then re-solidifies together), it means you've got the Dremel up too fast. Slow it down so the friction doesn't heat the plastic as much, just grinds it away, and you'll have better results.

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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby wingman12 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:07 pm

Thanks, I will try that next time. :D :D

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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby cbx4evr » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:13 pm

WingMan12

What did you do with the factory light harness and bulb socket, part 3 in the picture above. Looking for a set to replace mine.
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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby wingman12 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:37 pm

The light harness I cut off the plug end and soldered onto the new light, the rest of the stuff went into the recycle bin. :D :D

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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby Charlie1Horse » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:03 pm

If you still have the original pig tails, find an old car in a junkyard and take the wires from a tail light and then solder and heat shrink them to your original wires. I have looked at these wires and they look like automotive wires.
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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby wingman12 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:42 pm

I don't know what duty taxes Canada puts on new parts sent from the USA, but check out hondapartshouse.com. Part#33205-mam-d82 is $15.93 usa$ plus shipping. These are Honda oem parts. Hopefully better than local quoted cost. Please let me know how it works for you. Thanks :D :D

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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby cbx4evr » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:55 pm

Thanks for the info. I decided to bite the bullet and took the easiest way out. Ordered the light set with LED's from Cyclemax this morning. Two hours later I got the shipping notification. I've always had a good experience buying from there.

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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby wingman12 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:20 pm

I would be interested to know if they supply sufficient enough light. I put in the LED bulbs for Superbrite lights and I did not like them they were good for about 10 feet, oncoming traffic could see you fine but that was all they were good for. :D :D

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Re: Substitute for H3-WHP9 LED?

Postby cbx4evr » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:39 pm

This is a picture comparing the Cyclemax LED offering to a standard halogen light. There is a picture of the bulb earlier in this thread. It is not, in my understanding, a Superbright product.



This is a picture of the SuberBright H3-WHP9 bulb. I installed these and although they are okay they don't have much output. Some folks that I ride with commented that they weren't very bright when they see me in the mirror.

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