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need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby sunprowl@1 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:41 am



Hi every one This is my first post. I am Curtis M. Blockhus aka sunprowl
So I bought a 1988 Gold wing, the transport showed Friday I was standing in the trailer beside the bike as the guy tried to start her up, starter clicked from the starter solenoid not enough voltage to turn over let alone start. Neutral showed on the dash other lights lit. We pushed it out and up the drive to the carport in the back yard. So I put the tender on and after a 1 hour or so showed charged. Turned on the key Nothing works dash and all other things are dead I probed around after removing side cover and seat all connections at batt ok power both sides of looks like be main fuse just below the right side of battery. at this point I do not have a manual. been reading the one here trying to learn something about it and other things. Any one with a thought or 2 feel free to pass it on.

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby tfdeputydawg » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:13 am

#1 Check and make sure the kill switch is in the run position :D

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:47 am

So the battery is showing 12 volts, but absolutely everything is dead? You turn the ignition on and nothing comes on, no lights?

What voltage does the battery show when the ignition is turned on, compared to its voltage when the ignition is turned off?

If you turn the bike on and put your meter across the two terminals of the main fuse, do you measure any voltage?

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby sunprowl@1 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:13 pm

Wingman:
No lights, horn radio only thing that seems to work is temp and fuel
checked both ends of big fuse all good, all things I found under seat and side cover have power
looks like I need to pull the dash and check hot to switch and starter button.

Have to leave for doctor appointment will be back online later to check again before going out to bike.

Thanks Wingman

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby tprender » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:01 pm

If you say that you have 12v+ showing on the battery and nothing happens. Did you check the kill switch by the right hand grip and make sure that it is in on. Make sure that the bike is in nuteral, if the bike is in gear it will not start. Try pulling in the clutch lever to see if starts. You say that when the key is turned on you have nothing showing on the dash. I would not pull the dash apart yet. There are other things to check first. There are fuses and relays that could be bad and most of them are under the seat or side covers, not in the dash.

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby sunprowl@1 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:56 pm

Well I think I may have found out that is a bad ground may be the cause. + cables hooked up - not on battery test lite between battery negative post and negative cable lights up when hooking between cable and post that says bad ground. Is to dark and cold so will wait until in the morning to start chasing grounds out, reading others ground problem on thread gives me hope.

Will try to up date in a day or two.

Thanks again for the help guys

Curtis aka sunprowl

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby sunprowl@1 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:18 pm

I was just reading a few post with similar problems something strange caught my eye.
Reference was made to the little red LED up under the cowl on the right side.
What in the heck is that for? At times is 6. or 5.2 or 4.4 maybe when it reach's zero the bike blows up LOL

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:20 am

sunprowl@1 wrote:I was just reading a few post with similar problems something strange caught my eye.
Reference was made to the little red LED up under the cowl on the right side.
What in the heck is that for? At times is 6. or 5.2 or 4.4 maybe when it reach's zero the bike blows up LOL

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Might be a countdown timer..hmmmm....or a voltmeter.
That's where I put mine so I can see it.Mine monitors the battery volts.
Can you link this post so I can read it too?

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby sunprowl@1 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:16 pm

I don't know what you mean for sure by link the post know the term link but don't know how to do it for you

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:21 pm

sunprowl@1 wrote:I don't know what you mean for sure by link the post know the term link but don't know how to do it for you
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Curtis


There probably easier ways.... However I simply double click on the address bar of the top of the page I'm reading till it turns blue....Like this...
http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30963....
Then right click and select "copy"...
Go to where I'm typing and right click and select "paste".
Magically the link appears...Submit your post or preview...
If you preview,you will see the link like this...viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30963
When it's read,your link to that page will be there and I can click on it and it will take me to that page....
I really like select,copy and paste....

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby MikeB » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:35 pm

Is this the post you are referring to? http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=29891


This is the picture associated with the post.

If so, that is an aftermarket warning light installation. You most likely will not have it on your wing.
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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby spiralout » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:06 pm

tfdeputydawg wrote:#1 Check and make sure the kill switch is in the run position :D


tprender wrote:Did you check the kill switch by the right hand grip and make sure that it is in on.

To the best of my knowledge, the kill switch only disables the starting circuit on '97 and up.

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby sunprowl@1 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:10 pm

Thank you gentleman the kill switch is in the run.
not only no start but lights horn blinkers not working and anything else that works in ACC or ON.
Have a large stack of body parts on the tables bench chairs and every where I can find.
It can only be up hill from here.
I have a head ach time to stop for the night to darn cold to keep going.

Thank you every one

Curtis

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:56 pm

Also suspect the "main" relay.

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:04 pm

Watch out how you're describing your operation....
large stack of body parts on the tables bench chairs and every where

You can get in trouble for that :twisted:




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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby Charlie1Horse » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:47 pm

Test light between negative battery post and cable only means continuity through some accessory, eg. clock, radio or something else that may be turned on. Check voltage with a volt/ohm meter across battery terminals with everything off and again when trying to start engine. It could be a defective battery cell. Check the dog bone fuse for crack/breakage.
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Those who say it cannot be done should try not to interrupt those who are doing it.

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby sunprowl@1 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:43 pm

Bluewater
you got a good laugh out of me and just when I could use one

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby sunprowl@1 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:57 pm

Charlie Horse

In the morning I will take the battery down town and get a load test on it. Tried to buy one yesterday
no store had one in stock, if this is bad will have to order one.

I have checked about every fuse I can find, which one are you referring to as a dog bone where is it?
I called the transporter that brought it out to me. He said they rode it into the trailer, when he got to me a few days later I was next to him as he tried to start I saw the warning lights on on the dash and the starter just clicked a little we pushed it out and tried again.

nothing comes on any time key out in on off. Only thing that ever works is a small digital meter with key off I think it is battery volts.
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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:41 am

If those numbers you were referring to (6, 5.2, 4), and decreasing, are a voltmeter, you probably have yourself a first class, dead battery. It might recover in the off cycle, and decrease again, but even your high number is way low. In my experience, a measurement that low is a non recoverable situation. The battery is damaged. And even if it takes a charge, and starts the bike, I would not trust it to continuing doing so. It'll leave you stranded at some time in the near future.

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby Charlie1Horse » Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:02 am

I think the dogbone fuse is to the right of the battery in a plastic closure. I have seen mine but it's been a while and I can't recall exactly where it is located. It is a couple inches long and screws down on both ends.
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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby sunprowl@1 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:25 pm

Blue water
Weather here is crap today but taking the battery downtown this A M have it checked and look for a new one. no one had one the other day but only tried 4 stores will try others today.

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby sunprowl@1 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:27 pm

Charlie Horse: I found that one currant flows to a wires in and out so I believe it is ok

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby MikeB » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:31 pm

sunprowl@1 wrote:Charlie Horse: I found that one currant flows to a wires in and out so I believe it is ok

sunprowl
Huh?
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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:06 pm

Looks like O'Reilly Auto Parts carry quite a few, for pickup in store. I would stick with an AGM type battery. Not a flooded acid type.

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Re: need help (advice) 88 1500

Postby sunprowl@1 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:48 pm

Well here we are December 4 2015,
Yesterday I drove over to a town just about 15 miles away went to Batteries Plus they had just the right one for my 88 installed it the little led thing up by the forks under the dash read 14.2, ALL RIGHT!!!
Cranks over really well, sounds like no spark or no gas looked in the tank a whole lot of crap in it.
I should know better the to buy off e-bay, or trust a car dealer.
I think I will get a bilge pump for boat pump it dry then try to clean with gas that has to be fixed
no matter what.
Thank you guys for all the help and support, nice to be a newbie yet treated like I had been around
forever.
bought electrical and repair manuals not here yet.

Any way Kids gotta run.
sunprowl




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