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Remove transmission

Postby estavtn » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:00 pm



Does anyone know if there are posting on removing the transmission without removing the engine? I would like to replace the broken reverse gear. Thanks for great site and help.



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Re: Remove transmission

Postby dingdong » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:49 am

If it is actually a broken reverse gear then no, it can't be done. What exactly is wrong? How do you know the gear is broken?
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Re: Remove transmission

Postby estavtn » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:43 am

Thanks for replying. The reverse would operate intermittently, and sometimes I had to back the bike up to get it to work, and then only shortly. I am doing much work on the bike now, my first GoldWing, and learning a lot. I pulled the starter and found it not running well; but regarding reverse, the reverse idler gear has large section of teeth broken and drive gear on starter in bad shape. The previous owner told me he rebuilt the starter, so I assumed he broke the gear forcing it into the gear case. After I posted this, I did more research and found I have to pull the engine to remove the rear case to get to the gear. I am not afraid to do the work and have a nice shop in which to work. I have the thick Clymer manual so am confident I can do it, but am unsure of: 1) the special tools needed, 2) availability and best place to order new parts like gear, lock washers, etc (we live in the boonies and everything is by mail order for me), and 3) what other work should I do on the engine/transmission when I have it out. It is a 2000 GL1500SE with 80,000 miles and runs and shifts fine (I just installed the shift shaft support), specifically wondering about gear 4 issues, of which I have no problem now, but since it is out - should I address something as preventive? Thanks so much for great support to newbees like me.

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Re: Remove transmission

Postby NVSB4 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:50 am

There is a good "How-To" (with pictures) here that is about the 4th gear fix.
You should look through it before tearing the engine / transmission apart. He offers some good insight about what to expect.
He also says that he spent about $600 on parts. Most decide to buy a used complete engine / transmission for about the same price instead.
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Re: Remove transmission

Postby estavtn » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:01 am

Thanks Chris, I will look into the article.

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Re: Remove transmission

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:30 am

First off, this is not a Harley. You can't work on the transmission without first completely disassembling the engine - they're inside the same case. You have to remove the engine, split the engine halves, then remove the pistons and crankshaft before you can even SEE the transmission let alone fix it.

The good news is that the reverse gear has nothing to do with the transmission. The entire reverse gear mechanism is hanging off the back of the engine, and is NOT internal to the engine. Once you remove the engine and remove the back cover, the reverse gear mechanism (including your broken gear) will be exposed.

I'd strongly suggest for a repair this involved that you purchase the Honda service manual rather than relying on the (occasionally inaccurate and incomplete) Clymer manual.

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Re: Remove transmission

Postby estavtn » Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:55 pm

Thanks Admin, I have worked on a bit of motorcycle engines and am familiar with the design, and as I looked more into it, began to see that to get to the transmission parts, such as the #4 gear components, I would have to dig much deeper, but was thinking, and as you confirm, I can repair the reverse issue without digging into the transmission part of the engine. Thanks for the clarification. Also, thank you so much for the great DIY items on the site, I have incorporated some of them in my project and read most of them, great place for someone like me to start. Great pictures and good documentation, you certainly have spent some time putting these together. This week I will replace the burned out bulbs in my radio with LEDs and was surprised there were bulbs in my hand control switches when I had them apart cleaning up to work properly, they now have LEDs and work great. Thanks again.

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Re: Remove transmission

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:19 am

Regarding the "4th Gear Issue". I thought that was taken care of starting in the '97 model year. If so, you have nothing to worry about, or any reason to consider tearing into the engine. Just thought I'd mention it. Correct me if I'm wrong, "Oh, wiser ones than I" :D

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Re: Remove transmission

Postby estavtn » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:01 am

Thanks Blue, I will be eager to hear if others concur it was addressed before my 2000 model year. Great info here!

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Re: Remove transmission

Postby dingdong » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:36 am

Bluewaterhooker0 wrote:Regarding the "4th Gear Issue". I thought that was taken care of starting in the '97 model year. If so, you have nothing to worry about, or any reason to consider tearing into the engine. Just thought I'd mention it. Correct me if I'm wrong, "Oh, wiser ones than I" :D


You are correct. The 2000 shouldn't experience the 4th gear problem.
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Re: Remove transmission

Postby estavtn » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:44 am

Great! Thanks so much, won't bother beyond the reverse issue, should be a good experience for me.




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