Mini LED Driving Lights


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Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby TAZZ » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:14 pm



Hi Guys I've been asking lots off questions here about LED lights cause I'm trying to learn about them as to when I need resistors or not. Now I have another question I was at Auto Zone and they have this nice LED mini lights that you can put on my bike like that Mini Halogen Driving light that Cyclemax sells. I was going to get from Cyclemax the Lighted Switch panel to turn them off and on. Do I need to also install a relay or can i just run that wire from the light to that switch to turn them on and off and run one wire from the switch to the Acc. and the other to the negative off the battery.



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Re: Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby NVSB4 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:05 pm

A lot of us with 1500s use this power plate for accessories.
It's easy to hook up and already has a relay and individual fuses for each accessory.
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Re: Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:53 am

Typically, most LEDs do not draw enough power that you will require a switching relay - typically the switch is capable of switching them directly. Of course, that depends on the amp rating of the switch.

Look at the LEDs you are putting on the switch. Let's say you are putting two LED driving lights on a switch, and each LED says it draws 8 watts (that's a fair bit for an LED). Add that together, gives us 16 watts. Divide by 12 volts, that gives us 1.3 amps. Double that for safety, that is about 3 amps - so make sure your switch is rated for at least 3 amps.

As for which LEDs need resistors - component LEDS that look like this typically need resistors:



LEDs that are intended for 12 volt applications (they will normally say "12 volts" right on them) do not need resistors:



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Re: Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby TAZZ » Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:08 pm

Thank WA, then it's ok to run the wires from LED Driving lights to the switch then wire from the switch to the Acc + and battery negative - ?

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Re: Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:55 pm

TAZZ wrote:Thank WA, then it's ok to run the wires from LED Driving lights to the switch then wire from the switch to the Acc + and battery negative - ?


Yes, that should be fine.

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Re: Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby TAZZ » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:43 pm

Thank WA and I forgot to ask u I did my radio to LED like your but I only did the two lights for the knobs I used 3mm blue lights with 560ohm and I can't see the knobs words. :oops:

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Re: Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby TAZZ » Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:25 pm

Well, well I guess I'm not going to get an answer for a my question so for those that are going to change their radio to LED be AWARE the you may not get to see the words on your knob I don't know about the upper words cause I didn't do 3 top bulbs.

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Re: Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby TAZZ » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:09 am

Hi Guys I just got from Cyclemax Add-On master cylinder cover with lighted switches. I was going to put the LED running lights in the front of the bike is it ok to wire the LED to the switch and from the switch wire it to the Acc + on top of the fuse box on the left side of the bike with a 5amp fuse. Will this but a load on the bike wires an cause a fire and NO relay cause I been reading a lots here that our 1500se wire can't take any more load on the wires. Is this the safest way to do this wire job and how many wire can you run off the Acc and be safe.













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Re: Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:54 am

TAZZ wrote:Hi Guys I just got from Cyclemax Add-On master cylinder cover with lighted switches. I was going to put the LED running lights in the front of the bike is it ok to wire the LED to the switch and from the switch wire it to the Acc + on top of the fuse box on the left side of the bike with a 5amp fuse. Will this but a load on the bike wires an cause a fire and NO relay cause I been reading a lots here that our 1500se wire can't take any more load on the wires. Is this the safest way to do this wire job and how many wire can you run off the Acc and be safe.


It's not how many wires, it's what is the current draw.

The Accessory terminal is rated for 5 amps, and it has a 5 amp fuse on it. I'm pretty sure the switches themselves are rated for at least 5 amps apiece. So if the two LED lights together don't draw more than 5 amps, then you should be good to go, without using a relay.

If the LED lights together draw more than 5 amps, you will need to use the ACC terminal, through a switch, to power a relay coil. The relay coil will then switch a wire that goes directly from the battery positive terminal, through the switched contacts of the relay, and then to the lights. That wire will need to have a fuse, as close to the battery as possible, rated to handle the load of the LEDs. For instance, if the LEDs together draw 8 amps, I would put a 10 amp fuse on the wire.

An alternative to this is what a lot of us do: Install a power panel, like this one:

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10890

This is switched already, has built in fuses, and keeps your wiring neat and organized.

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Re: Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby TAZZ » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:54 pm

WingA I see that your power plate has a fuse next to that relay my does not do i have to but a fuse by the relay close to the positive of the battery do I have to cut the wire and but a fuse.

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Re: Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby Fiberthree » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:42 pm

I made my own panel out of solid printed circuit board material and mounted a fuse panel I bought at AutoZone. The six fuse panel gets the power from a relay that is switched on by the ACC terminal. That way it is is activated by the ignition key. Here is a photo of the panel and my wiring diagram.
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Re: Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby TAZZ » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:13 pm

Hi Guys me again, Thank to all for your help I did it and it work GREAT I use my fuse panel just add one relay to fuse panel the is wire to the Acc. with a fuse close to the Pos.+ how it work with that key I did not have my fuse panel before wire to the Acc just to the battery. My next job is to later change my Alternator went I safe up some money. Have any of you guys got your Alternator from RZ Alternaton here in Burbank Ca. and if you have want is your Pro and Con on then.

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Re: Mini LED Driving Lights

Postby NVSB4 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:48 am

There are several threads (some active) about alternators.
Personally, I've never heard of RZ Alternation, but Lactrical is also in California.
You can get their 95 amp model off Amazon for about $130.


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