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Alternator

Postby purchelli » Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:24 am



Well after many months of looking forward to our summer holiday ride through the beautiful south island of New Zealand we broke down day eight with a cooked alternator. So bloody disappointing !!! It put a sudden end to a fabulous trip due to the lack of timely availability of a replacement alternator. The current alternator is standard and in hind site I should have been a little more mindful of the load I put on it. When the bike arrives home I want to replace the alternator with something that delivers a higher output combined with iron clad reliability. This breakdown cost me big time !!! Keen to hear from anyone who has upgraded. I was looking at a Compu Fire but I see there are other options that claim to put out 90 amps but seem to be half the price of the Compu Fire. For example, Wai World Power Systems. Am I asking for trouble looking at the cheaper options ??



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Re: Alternator

Postby NVSB4 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:57 am

Sorry to hear about your vacation being ruined.
There are plenty of cheaper alternatives that will work just as well.
I've had my Lactrical for a while with no issues at all.
Instead of asking for recommendations, I would ask the group for those to stay away from.
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Re: Alternator

Postby dingdong » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:41 am

Compufire and Lactrical have a proven reputation. When you get it replaced do yourself a favor and install a voltmeter so you can keep an eye on the charge rate.
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Re: Alternator

Postby NVSB4 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:27 am

dingdong wrote:Compufire and Lactrical have a proven reputation. When you get it replaced do yourself a favor and install a voltmeter so you can keep an eye on the charge rate.

+1 on the voltmeter. You can get some off eBay for less than $5 and they are well worth it.
When my alternator went out, I did the research on the forums and couldn't see spending 3x as much on the Compufire as the Lactrical.
Others may disagree, but I figure that even if it lasts half as long, I'm still money ahead.

Also make sure that you have an AGM battery to go with your higher output alternator.
Once again, any AGM battery will work, so you don't have to spend the extra on the Compufire "kit".
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Re: Alternator

Postby Fiberthree » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:31 pm

I replaced mine with the Compufire unit in June of 2005 and have had ZERO problems since. In '05 they were the only choice but I have no regrets.

NVSB4--- I think I see a little blue dot on your Goldwing locator map near Southern California.
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Re: Alternator

Postby NVSB4 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:49 pm

Fiberthree wrote:NVSB4--- I think I see a little blue dot on your Goldwing locator map near Southern California.

Can't imagine how that might be. I live in Texas and haven't been to SoCal in years.
Where are you seeing that?
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Re: Alternator

Postby Fiberthree » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:09 pm

NVSB4 wrote:
Fiberthree wrote:NVSB4--- I think I see a little blue dot on your Goldwing locator map near Southern California.

Can't imagine how that might be. I live in Texas and haven't been to SoCal in years.
Where are you seeing that?


It's outside my front door. (The blue dot!)
My bad. I was reading your map as where Wings are located. Not the states you've visited. :oops: :oops:
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Re: Alternator

Postby NVSB4 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:18 pm

Reason that I asked was that another forum that I belong to has a members map here.

Maybe we can get WingAdmin to create the map and host the link for members here too.
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Re: Alternator

Postby FM-USA » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:30 am

Interesting who is where.. .. ..
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( map condensed a little )
Viewing problem? Click on to open then 'RIGHT-CLICK' pick 'VIEW IMAGE'

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especially Squirtgunkid

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Re: Alternator

Postby NVSB4 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:45 am

I wondered about that myself.
You can drag and drop the pin anywhere, looks like he was having some fun that day.
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Re: Alternator

Postby FM-USA » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:51 am

YAAaaaa... maybe he was testing out his 'new to him' water Wing.
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Re: Alternator

Postby Fiberthree » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:04 pm

Might also have been copious amounts of alcohol involved. Did you see the one in the middle of the Atlantic?
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Re: Alternator

Postby FM-USA » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:34 pm

REALLY!!!!?

Someone's just showing off. :roll:
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Re: Alternator

Postby Mh434 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:48 pm

Purchelli - the thread seems to have derailed along the way, but in answer to your original question, I looked at all the options when I decided to replace my OEM alternator (it hadn't failed, but was still woefully inadequate for the electrical farkles I wanted to install). In the end, I bought a LActrical 95-amp alternator. Aside from having to adapt the connector on one of the wires, it was a dead simple installation. The alternator exceeded my expectations, and has continued to run flawlessly in the year I've had it. It produces way more amps at idle than my OEM one did at max output. This one is built on a Saturn car alternator chassis, with a modified nose to fit the GoldWing drive.

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Re: Alternator

Postby Big Bob » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:09 pm

The alternator I installed in my '96 Aspencade was from a company call obb starters and alternators.com, I did this 3 years ago. Free shipping and at the time price was $132.90, they also have/had a warehouse in my state so it was on my door step the next day. At the time they had a 90 or 95 amp option, went to their website b4 posting this and no larger alternator option and the price of the 40 amp is now $148, still cheaper than mother Honda replacement. So far so good, a little noise from alternator first 500 miles but very little now, and it charges and bike runs fine. I'd buy from them again. Good luck!

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Re: Alternator

Postby TAZZ » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:24 pm

Yeah it looks like (RZ, LActrical, Power Max alternator are ALL for the same company here in Burbank Ca.
Want I'm also confused is that there is 5 diff. AMPS 70,80,85,90,95 amps which one will work best for our bike beside the 70 amps is lower than the 95 amps in prices. This is a question I start it at Mini LED driving lights sorry that was the wrong place to ask.

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Re: Alternator

Postby FM-USA » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:52 pm

If you're adding 20-30 amps of extra electrical, the 70 looks good. ;)
BUT.... if you plan on jumping dead Harleys, get the 95. :lol:

This was meant as a joke. By no means take it for your answer.

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Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.

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Re: Alternator

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:20 am

TAZZ,
I put a Lactrical 85A on mine, simply because I figured the 85A would be a little smaller than the 95A, and thus, easier to install. The photos they use in their listing on Amazon are not accurate. The photo looks like a stock alternator, and the actual 85A looks more like the photos you see of the 95A. So, whether it is actually smaller than an 95A, who knows ? It's a tight fit, either way, but no real problem to install. Just a bit of jockeying to get it in place.
I've had no issues after an initial problem that required replacement of the first one they shipped. That was 1 year and 6K miles ago. It pumps out consistent voltage numbers at any RPM, right around 13.8 - 14.2, depending on conditions. It has made my AGM battery very happy. (It has been suggested that you only use an AGM type battery with the high output alternators)

One tip. Instead of disassembling the side of the bike to make the 2-pin connection that is hidden, and provides the reference voltage to the alternator, I just cut the OEM wire near the old alternator, and added a mating 2-pin plug. Making that connection right near the alternator, and facilitating any future alternator changes.

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Re: Alternator

Postby Mh434 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:13 am

I made the same connector mod that Bluewaterhooker did. Mother Honda REALLY hid the OEM upper connector (between the frame & false tank, to the left of the gas filler door) and it was a right pain to get to. I didn't ever want to mess with it like that again either - adding a new connector at the bottom was by far the easiest way to go.

I found that it was tough to figure out how to get the alternator in there but, jiggling it this way and that, it suddenly just clicked right into place with ease.

****By the way - BE SURE TO REPLACE THE DRIVE RUBBERS WITH NEW ONES WHEN YOU CHANGE ALTERNATORS!!!***.

Also, some people have experienced leaks with the (aftermarket, non-metric) O-rings that come with some alternators. I re-used the OEM Honda one, and have no leaks at all.




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