1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years


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1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby Pope82 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:29 pm



Bike has been parked in garage for 5 years . Previous owner said he had the timing belts replaced before parking it and that I could have it for free . Took the battery out of my 1200 and turned the key on (did not attempt to start it yet) . So far I see the radio tune up and down is not working and the neutral light is not coming on. I do not know what the wires are that are that are by the handle bars (I think they go to the under side of the chrome knob on the handle bars) . I am going to replace the timing belts and the filters (air,fuel,etc.) . What else should I look for and what would be the be way to look over the fuel system on this full carb overhaul or what ?
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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby harvey01 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:25 pm

Your electric problems may be no more than that mice have chewed up parts of the wiring. Hopefully easy to trace and fix, just time consuming.

I would also plan to rebuild the brake calipers, perhaps replaced then brake lines, as well as the tires. Make sure the engine turns freely before startup, if gas has leaked into the/a cylinder it can cause hydrolock and then you need new rods. Remove and since you are there anyway go ahead and get the new plugs ready to install.

There is plenty more but how are the carbs? After 5 years they may gummed up.

Lets don't forget that this bike is some 17 years old so there are a lot of maintenance items that need attention. I urge you to get a Honda service manual for this bike. If you can't find one to download free helminc.com has them for sale.
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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby virgilmobile » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:28 pm

FREE.... :D :shock:
You could completely refurbish this to like new condition and have less invested than the value of the bike.
Whatever you do,don't rush till you've got all the problems resolved.
Most important is fresh oil,timing belts (yea I know, but there cheap to get new ones in there)...Tend to the whole brake system..flush it out and renew the fluid...don't forget the clutch too..it's hydraulic.
Date code the tires ...I don't trust any older than a few years old..the rubber does get hard..Same for the rubber hoses on the bike.
While you have the wheels off, it's a good time to use balancing beads in them and greasing the drive shaft....
Changing the oil in the differential and forks is always a good thing too....

Oh..so much to do...

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby Pope82 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:50 pm

Thank you so much for your replies. The more I think about it the more I want to do , I have to remember to pace myself

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby FM-USA » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:12 am

Pope82 wrote:Thank you so much for your replies. The more I think about it the more I want to do , I have to remember to pace myself

Just my suggestion:
Section your work. You don't want jobs and parts overlapping unless you have ample shelves to keep it all separated.
For say, doing 5 jobs that include starting and running of the bike then the bike will not start after completing. Now you have a headache of WHICH section you did that caused this no start problem.

Define BASKET CASE:
Taking apart the whole 'X' and forgetting how it all goes back together. :twisted:

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby Rednaxs60 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:43 am

I agree with FM-USA, section out the work not like tasks. Make a list of what you want to do, get the parts, then start the work. You will encounter work that should be done because you have taken the bike apart to that stage, and it would be advantageous to do the work then instead of install/remove/install.

When you finish each section of work, put the bike back together and trial the bike to ensure the results of your work are as expected.

Hing done a fair bit of maintenance on my '85 these sat few months, I'd suggest section is the bike/work into four areas.

First is basic maintenance, oil changes, air filters and the likes - running maintenance.

Second is wiring/electrics. This involves the upper part of the bike and takes a long time. Wiring fixes/changes are time consuming. Lots of good stuff to do.

Third would be front end of the engine - timing belts, belt tensioners, flushing rad, etc.

Fourth would be front/rear wheel, final drive, swing arm. The brake calipers will need to be cleaned and freed up as well as bled. Front and back are liked. Hydraulic clutch as has been mentioned. Lube of final drive and u-joint. Check swing arm bearings.

Just some thoughts for you. Cheers

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby Pope82 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:28 pm

Can anyone tell me what carb rebuild kit is the best option for a gl1500 randakks or what?

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby FM-USA » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:34 am

CAN'T beat Randakk for quality of parts used.

Personally, I still can't wrap my head around $99.00 for the GL1500 kit.
WELL KRAP, I just looked, now it's $101.99 USD :evil:

JUST SEEMS to few parts for the price.
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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby spiralout » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:39 pm

FM-USA wrote:
Personally, I still can't wrap my head around $99.00 for the GL1500 kit.
WELL KRAP, I just looked, now it's $101.99 USD :evil:

JUST SEEMS to few parts for the price.

Agreed. Ridiculous prices, especially for the 1100 kit with an accelerator pump on each carb.

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby FM-USA » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:03 pm

spiralout wrote:
FM-USA wrote:
Personally, I still can't wrap my head around $99.00 for the GL1500 kit.
WELL KRAP, I just looked, now it's $101.99 USD :evil:

JUST SEEMS to few parts for the price.

Agreed. Ridiculous prices, especially for the 1100 kit with an accelerator pump on each carb.

DON'T miss what else I wrote...
"CAN'T beat Randakk for quality of parts used."
It is a good package and he took the time to search and gather the best parts available.
YA-ya... 2 way sword. I just wish I was a measly 10% richer, I could then afford it.
"OIL CHANGE?" _FM 07-2009
Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby spiralout » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:02 pm

FM-USA wrote:
spiralout wrote:
FM-USA wrote:
Personally, I still can't wrap my head around $99.00 for the GL1500 kit.
WELL KRAP, I just looked, now it's $101.99 USD :evil:

JUST SEEMS to few parts for the price.

Agreed. Ridiculous prices, especially for the 1100 kit with an accelerator pump on each carb.

DON'T miss what else I wrote...
"CAN'T beat Randakk for quality of parts used."
It is a good package and he took the time to search and gather the best parts available.
YA-ya... 2 way sword. I just wish I was a measly 10% richer, I could then afford it.

I didn't miss it and I use his kits now after learning the hard way that it's cheaper to do it once. Still, there's no way that those rubbers and diaphragm are worth 100 bucks.

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby raven41951 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:35 pm

Agree with the rest but I will put emphasis on the Air filter. Mine had sat for a while and was 70% covered with mice nesting. Nut shells and steel wool. Change the cruise and sub-air filters too while you're there.

I also agree with sectioning the work. You may be repeating some steps, but practice makes perfect. I learned that you need to learn how all the plastic goes back on in the right order. Can't emphasize this enough. This forum has all the DIY resources you will need, just check that section. I take my iPad with me and page through the procedure while doing the work. Saves a lot of aggravation. A wifi notebook works just as well.

Check the seat. At 27 years young, there could be issues. I just bought a backrest for my seat but in starting the installation I noticed the seat foam was quite brittle. Not wanting to waste time and effort, I found some valuable info on this forum and bit the bullet and am having a custom seat made by Mark Hart at Hartco Int'l.

Free? Nice!

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby Pope82 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:52 pm

I jumped the gun and ordered the randakks kit while I was at work. My next question would be about the air filter and fuel filter . I figured a K&n air filter but am not sure about the fuel filter stock or what ? So far I have pulled the spark plugs and put MMO in the cylinders and put the plugs back in for now and I also used the battery out of my gl1200 to check the electrical because other then dirt dubbed nests all over the bike the wiring looks good . I did notice the neutral light is not coming on. And I should add the original owners manual came in handy for the plastics and I just received the Clymer manual in the mail.

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby harvey01 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:10 pm

Pope82,

I am just lazy. You can find all kinds of arguments about the advantages of the K&N filter over the stock ones. I have no idea and do know I can't feel the difference in performance. I have used both and have found that the stock filters are just more convenient. At least annually you have to change the air filter which means you take either one out, and with the stock filter you now just put the new one in and move forward. With the K&N, you now have to spray the filter with cleaner, wash and clean it and let air dry, then spray it with their oil and then finally replace. The stock filter might cost me more in the long run but in time saved and convenience it is worth the difference.

For the same reason I use the Honda premix coolant. Yes you can find cheaper and it works great but the Honda stuff is very easy to use and I like the size of the container as opposed to a gallon jug which I have been known to spill.

I do also recommend Randakks. Randall is an upstanding motorcyclist and person.
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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby FM-USA » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:21 am

One wonders if Randakks will go broke if he gave Senior Citizen Discounts? :roll:
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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby Happytrails » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:59 am

Now thats a project! :D :D Good luck and post many pics!
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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby raven41951 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:40 pm

I used a K&N filter. Hindsight being 20/20, I will use the stock paper filter next time around. I expected to see a huge difference between the new K&N and the old mice clogged paper filter but surprisingly very little difference. I do notice the carbs seem a bit sluggish so next time I change the air filter I will clean the jets. I do use Startron Starbrite, 1oz with every or everyother 5 gallon fillup and it keeps things smooth although I do feel a little lag from time to time.

I picked up a set of E3.36 spark plugs and will install them when I get my brand new custom seat from Hartco Int'l. Short winter here in the NE (so far) so maybe the riding season will start earlier (as soon as road salt is washed away).

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby FM-USA » Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:58 pm

A piece of aluminum screen over the air inlet will ward off them critters with near negligible impact on the engines performance. Unless it gets full of garbage it will but it's in view sitting on the bike and easily in reach even while riding.

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Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby raven41951 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:16 pm

Mine had been sitting for several years with the original owner. The person I bought it from bought it from his estate and only had it 6 months as he broke and ankle and is now relegated to a can-am. It doesn't sit that long anymore but I will put the screen in next time around.

I am responding because I forgot to mention:
Source for OEM parts I use: bike bandit and partzilla
They are cheaper than Honda for the same parts. I also cross reference them on Amazon (I have Prime) and sometime find the OEM parts there.

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby Pope82 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:37 pm

Does anybody know if there is a complete vacuum line kit for the 1989 gl1500 or is it better to match up the vacuum lines and make the lines from the Sam diameter neoprene tubing? Is there anything that should be done or is easier to do with the carbs off ?

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby FM-USA » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:05 pm

Carbs off? There's 2 vac lines under the carbs that should be replaced, I hear they're impossible to get to with the carbs on.

In a couple of other Wing sites no one had mentioned of a Vacuum Tube Kit.
Several just ordered all the lines.
A couple said they bought bulk line but found there's 3 sizes.

*IF* I remember, the multi bend lines are hard to hold form, best to order those.
If your dedicated to buying bulk lines, you could ZipTie wire to the outside of a line and bend.
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Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:49 am

If you look at How to replace your air filter, you will see the making and installation of the galvanized mesh that I used over my air filter inlet to keep the critters out.

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby flogger » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:15 am

WingAdmin wrote:If you look at How to replace your air filter, you will see the making and installation of the galvanized mesh that I used over my air filter inlet to keep the critters out.


Recommend you do this too! Slick, easy, and a great idea! I did it the last time I had my fairing opened up... Very good instructions...
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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby FM-USA » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:58 pm

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Forgot about this one.

"OIL CHANGE?" _FM 07-2009
Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.

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Re: 1989 gl1500 parked in garage for 5 years

Postby Pope82 » Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:03 pm

Finally got off work at a good time where I could work on the bike.
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